Posted on 05/17/2006 5:02:57 PM PDT by notes2005
We already learned from a history lesson, 1986 IRCA, apparently you didn't. Amnesty didn't work then and it won't work now. Enforcement fisrt so they can't pull the funding after the shafting.
Methinks President Bush and some Senators are following its blueprint for failure on purpose, nothing else makes sense.
Nice sound byte.
Was just reading this thread....I don't know why either.
Well, those protests were well timed for the quickie way they tried to pass McKennedy. Remembe the fingerpointing at Sessions and Reid?
"The felony thing was not thought out, and just blew up, unexpectedly. Color me cynical, but the felony thing was just WH window dressing anyway, I suspect."
I think it was very well thought out. And devious. Those protests were well-funded, well supplied, well planned (some were instantaneous).
Early on Rove was leaking to the media that the "Republican conservatives" would be the problem. Given his experience with liberals deep seated needs to not advocate themselves but define themselves againt the "right wing" they fell for the meme. To this day though many Democrats age against you wouldn't know it. MSM asks them no questions, gives them no voice. They're pushing this anti-worker bill on the basis of hate for people they consider anti-worker!
What is so difficult to understand about Whashington in general being corrupt. Honest men will always be brought in on a line and find themselves gasping for air wondering why they were lied to.
I'll add Sessenbrenner might have another problem. He might air the trick Bush pulled on him, but the MSM will define it as proof of Bush's cruelty, rather than a clever ruse to define his opponents so.
Good points to ponder.
Sensenbrenner is a smart man. I have met him and spoken to him. Sensenbrenner was well aware of the fact that his bill would never pass the Senate.
I think the media are spinning this. I am convinced that we are not getting the entire story.
Something is missing.
"The overwhelming majority of those that I talked to who were at the conference believe that he dissed the House Republicans," Sensenbrenner said.
Wow. This White House is starting to resemble the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
What on earth is going on over there?
The government was, as you say, organized to prevent dictatorship, but the executive branch is the branch responsible for the enforcement of our laws and for protecting the country from outside invasions (hence the word "executive".
I've read the federalist papers.
I note that Benjamin Franklin was very opposed to illegal immigration as well.
I would have found acceptable your proposal for a wall and additional troops. You are right though, I would have continued to complain about not doing it sooner, since the presendent has not yet spent all of the money allocated to him for border agents by the Congress.
What we want is a serious resolution of the problem, not a nibbling around the edges toward a goal 50 years off into the future. That's like curing my cancer by the time I'm 150 yeras old. Thanks, but no thanks.
The "art of politics" doesn't carry alot of weight with me. I'm a taxpayer.
Anyone still think Terry Reed's book "Compromised" is tin foil hat stuff?
Media spin is something that must ALWAYS be presumed. Still, I don't think they would completely fabricate this quote:
"The overwhelming majority of those that I talked to who were at the conference believe that he dissed the House Republicans," Sensenbrenner said.
What is more important to President Bush and his sidekick than getting his Amnesty passed?
Good question...any suggestions?
Bush is toast - his effective presidency ended with his prime time speech.
The Senate is now irrevelant - it doesn't matter if it stays Rino or goes to the Dems. We'll see how things match up in 2008.
The GOP primaries will result in more conservative candidates for November. If the mixture is right, conservative voters will turn out in force to support the only branch of government willing to listen to the people.
The House will remain in GOP hands, so Bush is safe from impeachment. However, it will move farther to the right and the Speaker will become the most powerful government leader in the country.
Bush will of course retain titular control, but he's done.
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