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Sensenbrenner: Bush Turned Back on Bill
AP ^ | 05/17/2006 | By FREDERIC J. FROMMER

Posted on 05/17/2006 5:02:57 PM PDT by notes2005

WASHINGTON - Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, who has pushed a tough border security bill through the House, accused President Bush on Wednesday of abandoning the legislation after asking for many of its provisions.

"He basically turned his back on provisions of the House-passed bill, a lot of which we were requested to put in the bill by the White House," Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., angrily told reporters in a conference call. "That was last fall when we were drafting the bill, and now the president appears not to be interested in it at all."

Sensenbrenner chairs the House Judiciary Committee and would be the House's chief negotiator on any final immigration package for Bush's signature. He said it was the White House that had requested two controversial felony provisions in the bill the House passed last winter.

"We worked very closely with White House in the fall in putting together the border security bill that the House passed," he said. "... What we heard in November and December, he seems to be going in the opposite direction in May. That is really at the crux of this irritation," he said of Bush.

White House spokesman Alex Conant said Bush has been consistent in seeking comprehensive immigration reform. "He applauded the House's action to strengthen our borders and is now urging the Senate to pass a bill," Conant said.

Sensenbrenner spoke with reporters as the Senate worked this week on a broader bill that generally follows the approach Bush laid out Monday night in his nationally televised speech. That includes offering most of the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants an opportunity to eventually become citizens — an act that Sensenbrenner and other conservatives label as amnesty.

"I was very disappointed in the president's speech," Sensenbrenner said. "I think he doesn't get it."

Asked if Bush mollified conservatives in the speech by calling for sending National Guard troops to states along the Mexican border, Sensenbrenner said, "He failed in that completely."

And despite Bush's insistence that he was not calling for amnesty, Sensenbrenner said, "Well it is an amnesty, because it allows people who have broken the law to stay in the country."

"The president has repeatedly and forcefully rejected amnesty," Conant said. "Under his plan, you're going to have to pay stiff fines, follow the law, stay employed, learn English and — after achieving all those things — go to the back of the line."

Sensenbrenner did not attend a closed-door meeting between Bush political adviser Karl Rove and House Republicans, but said that some members complained to him that Rove didn't stay around for many questions or hear what lawmakers had to say.

"The overwhelming majority of those that I talked to who were at the conference believe that he dissed the House Republicans," Sensenbrenner said.


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To: Shermy
"He said it was the White House that had requested two controversial felony provisions in the bill the House passed last winter."

That one caught my eye as well. It sure would be nice to know exactly WHO put in that poison pill.

41 posted on 05/17/2006 5:21:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I never heard Pres. Bush call for illegals to be felons. Why would he ask Sensenbrenner to put it in the bill but never publicly call for it himself. Something just does not smell right.

Sensenbrenner does not lie.

42 posted on 05/17/2006 5:21:23 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Sensenbrenner is just another DU plant. </sarcasm>


43 posted on 05/17/2006 5:22:27 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: notes2005

If you want to send a message to Congress, then vote for pro-border security Republiicans. Keeping the US House in GOP hands will tell President Bush that border security is the way to go.


44 posted on 05/17/2006 5:23:29 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Disturbin
go to the back of the line: how? they are already here -- they jumped the line

I agree.

Heather Mac Donald - Bush's "illegals-must-wait-at-the-end-of-the-line" line is a con: by remaining in the country and jumping into the citizenship line, rather than the visa line, illegals have catapulted way ahead of law-abiding intending immigrants waiting in their home countries for a visa.

snip

George Borjas: ...illegals being granted relief will have to "wait in line behind those who play by the rules." As of last night, some Filipinos have been waiting since November 1, 1983. Somehow, I suspect that Bush's amnesty does not include a 23-year queue. In short, an untrustworthy and depressing sales pitch.

snip

45 posted on 05/17/2006 5:23:47 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Mo1


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46 posted on 05/17/2006 5:24:07 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Torie
Might it occur that if Rove walked out of a meeting that it simply might have been due to a more important issue? Why should the Congressman go off without even suggesting that he knew why Rove left? What it all suggests is one thing, but knowing the facts is another. Fair?
47 posted on 05/17/2006 5:24:15 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: dandiegirl

There is no way this makes sense from a political point of view, I agree. But it does make sense if those not in the news are pressuring the administration to act the way they are. As with all things in politics, as FDR said, "Nothing in politics happens by accident. If it happened, someone wanted it to happen."

So the main question is: How stands to gain from:

(1) allowing illegals to cross and stay out of the system; or
(2)who benefits from creating an immigration controversy so that there is a reaction to that controversy?

What reaction could be expected? If you can answer these questions, the reason for the open borders and the controversy at this time will be better understood.

Is this all a massive distraction?


48 posted on 05/17/2006 5:24:18 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: calcowgirl

The felony thing was not thought out, and just blew up, unexpectedly. Color me cynical, but the felony thing was just WH window dressing anyway, I suspect. Heck what zillions of employers are doing now is a felony. For the WH it is about body counts.


49 posted on 05/17/2006 5:24:24 PM PDT by Torie
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To: tennmountainman; Kenny Bunk

"We now have two contridicting stories.

Who is telling the truth President Bush or Sennensbrenner."

Bush will only respond if the MSM forces him with coverage on the issue. I suspect they won't.

Consider what happened. The proponents decided they needed a "crisis" as shown by the protests - which Bush oftens mention. This was game plan from the beginning. The protests were much organized by lobby money funneled through ethnic and socialist groups. What was the biggest complaint? The "felony" charges. How do you get them in? Tell Sessenbrenner the White House wanted them.

The preplanning was devious and brilliant. This whole charade has been stage managed from the start. I think the National Guard show was a later corrective, and they hit a bump the first time they tried to push this through, but Rove smartly made NG the talking point for last weekend.

Sessenbrenner's only revenge is to get this point out. The conservative radio will do it.


50 posted on 05/17/2006 5:26:03 PM PDT by Shermy (Read my lips. No new amnesty.)
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To: notes2005
The pro illegals Republicans better grasp that a large part of the Republicans base has had them and to the point of exercising the M.A.D. option

(You remember M.A.D. ... Mutually Assured Destruction...I.E. You nuke me I nuke you from the Cold War)

Well the pro illegals Republicans better think hard if that cheap labor is really worth it because if they sell out the country and past amnesty ...

The M.A.D. Republicans will nuke the pro illegals Republicans even if it means Mutually Assured Destruction...

It is coming to that point

51 posted on 05/17/2006 5:26:17 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: notes2005
"That was last fall when we were drafting the bill, and now the president appears not to be interested in it at all."

Apparently the president considers the Senate bill the 'whole enchalada', which is what he's been after all along.

52 posted on 05/17/2006 5:27:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Pukin Dog; kcar
Are you suuurrrre you dont want to retract a statement calling the President a 'jerk'?

"a smug jerk" was what was said, btw.

53 posted on 05/17/2006 5:27:29 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: kcar
You really need a civics course. It's not as simple as black and white. We all wish it were so, but that's not the way it is. Now, he's doing something, but, it's still not good enough for you. Unless you are elected dictator, nothing will be good enough for you. You need to learn the art of politics. As much as you want your pet issue resolved now, it's not going to happen over night. And let's say, it did. Let's say W said, we're going to build a fence, mine the border, bring in 100,000 troops, round up all illegals and deport them all, I think you'd find something to bitch about because it didn't happen yesterday, or it's more big government spending, yada, yada, yada, your type is never satisfied and lives to bitch and gripe. Read the federalist papers. Our government was designed purposely to be slow and tedious to prevent a dictatorship.
54 posted on 05/17/2006 5:28:33 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Robertsll
Where is the "back of the line" when millions of people petition to come here legally and are still in line to become legal residents?

If the line formed at the border near San Diego, "the back of the line" would be somewhere in Alaska.

55 posted on 05/17/2006 5:28:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I can't imagine what Rove had to do that was more important, than rounding up House Pubbies for the big WH push, and if there were something, Rove could and should have said, that he was very sorry about the conflict, and offer to reconvene the meeting at a later date. Rather, I think he thought he knew what the Congressmen had to say, and was not interested. Either his threats about the future without the bill passing would work, or they wouldn't. No, I am not giving Rove any slack. Apparently, he left a considerable number of Congresmen upset, if you believe the S man is faithfully repeating what he was told.


56 posted on 05/17/2006 5:29:00 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
The felony thing was not thought out, and just blew up, unexpectedly. Color me cynical, but the felony thing was just WH window dressing anyway, I suspect. Heck what zillions of employers are doing now is a felony. For the WH it is about body counts.

Color me cynical too... but I don't think it blew up unexpectedly.

57 posted on 05/17/2006 5:29:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Torie; Pukin Dog
"As a Congressman, I would have been enraged, and verbally lashed Rove as he exited. I really would have. And then I would have sent Bush a note about it." ---

****

Agreed.

58 posted on 05/17/2006 5:29:13 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you see strange men lurking about in groups of three - especially in North Carolina, RUN!)
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To: notes2005

I was not in the forefront of the immigration wing of FR, but I'm really beginning to get angry about it.

Sensenbrenner is not the kind of guy to say this in order to make political brownie points. If he says it, I believe it.

Bush has been going downhill ever since he was elected to his second term. I don't know what the hell has gotten into him. He talks about enforcing the laws of our country, but he's not doing it, and he's not using his bully pulpit to urge the states to do it or to persuade citizens that it ought to be done.

I'm not one of the conspiracy theorists who think that Vincent Fox is somehow blackmailing him, but it sure does look that way. In five years, Vincente Fox has done NOTHING for Bush. Bush panders to Fox, and Fox just kicks him in the teeth every time. Why the hell is Bush still trying to stroke this loser?


59 posted on 05/17/2006 5:29:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: notes2005; JustPiper; Arizona Carolyn; nicmarlo; Kimberly GG; La Enchiladita; TigersEye; TheLion; ..

Ping! Thought this might interest you.

Sensenbrenner: "I was very disappointed in the president's speech," Sensenbrenner said. "I think he doesn't get it."

Neither do I, but why..


60 posted on 05/17/2006 5:30:20 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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