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Sensenbrenner: Bush Turned Back on Bill
AP ^ | 05/17/2006 | By FREDERIC J. FROMMER

Posted on 05/17/2006 5:02:57 PM PDT by notes2005

WASHINGTON - Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, who has pushed a tough border security bill through the House, accused President Bush on Wednesday of abandoning the legislation after asking for many of its provisions.

"He basically turned his back on provisions of the House-passed bill, a lot of which we were requested to put in the bill by the White House," Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., angrily told reporters in a conference call. "That was last fall when we were drafting the bill, and now the president appears not to be interested in it at all."

Sensenbrenner chairs the House Judiciary Committee and would be the House's chief negotiator on any final immigration package for Bush's signature. He said it was the White House that had requested two controversial felony provisions in the bill the House passed last winter.

"We worked very closely with White House in the fall in putting together the border security bill that the House passed," he said. "... What we heard in November and December, he seems to be going in the opposite direction in May. That is really at the crux of this irritation," he said of Bush.

White House spokesman Alex Conant said Bush has been consistent in seeking comprehensive immigration reform. "He applauded the House's action to strengthen our borders and is now urging the Senate to pass a bill," Conant said.

Sensenbrenner spoke with reporters as the Senate worked this week on a broader bill that generally follows the approach Bush laid out Monday night in his nationally televised speech. That includes offering most of the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants an opportunity to eventually become citizens — an act that Sensenbrenner and other conservatives label as amnesty.

"I was very disappointed in the president's speech," Sensenbrenner said. "I think he doesn't get it."

Asked if Bush mollified conservatives in the speech by calling for sending National Guard troops to states along the Mexican border, Sensenbrenner said, "He failed in that completely."

And despite Bush's insistence that he was not calling for amnesty, Sensenbrenner said, "Well it is an amnesty, because it allows people who have broken the law to stay in the country."

"The president has repeatedly and forcefully rejected amnesty," Conant said. "Under his plan, you're going to have to pay stiff fines, follow the law, stay employed, learn English and — after achieving all those things — go to the back of the line."

Sensenbrenner did not attend a closed-door meeting between Bush political adviser Karl Rove and House Republicans, but said that some members complained to him that Rove didn't stay around for many questions or hear what lawmakers had to say.

"The overwhelming majority of those that I talked to who were at the conference believe that he dissed the House Republicans," Sensenbrenner said.


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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borderspeech; bushamnesty; hr4437; invasionusa; sensenbrenner
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To: Torie

I didn't say the Feds were blameless

I said they were not the only ones to blame for this mess


281 posted on 05/17/2006 7:27:21 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Cicero
Bush has been going downhill ever since he was elected to his second term. I don't know what the hell has gotten into him. He talks about enforcing the laws of our country, but he's not doing it, and he's not using his bully pulpit to urge the states to do it or to persuade citizens that it ought to be done.

I'm not one of the conspiracy theorists who think that Vincent Fox is somehow blackmailing him, but it sure does look that way. In five years, Vincente Fox has done NOTHING for Bush. Bush panders to Fox, and Fox just kicks him in the teeth every time. Why the hell is Bush still trying to stroke this loser?

I totally agree. Bush has pandered, appeased, capitulated, backpedaled, cajoled El Presidente (corrupt despot) Fox at every turn. The Feds are scared to death of standing up to a bunch of bullying corrupt Mexicans, and Bush leads the pack of the appeasers. It's gotten that much worse since Nov 2004! Why? It is beyond belief & credibility that he would be so willing to abandon our borders and allow an unprecedented invasion of 18-20 million illegal aliens.

282 posted on 05/17/2006 7:28:03 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Les_Miserables

Yep, you're right, I have a handful of stones, and I'm prepared to use them. Sheesh, freepers are too anal.


283 posted on 05/17/2006 7:28:18 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Mo1
True. One percent at least of the blame lies elsewhere. Employer sanctions were the real stick in Simpson Mazzoli, and it was made flaccid per Fed policy.
284 posted on 05/17/2006 7:28:46 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Soul Seeker

Like when Slick cut a deal with Newt and then walked out to the cameras saying, "They want to cut your Medicare and I won't let them."


285 posted on 05/17/2006 7:29:35 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Torie

One percent ??

Sorry .. that is not accurate

Heck here in Philly city officials have been told not to report illegals to the feds


286 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:52 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Indy Pendance

more insults, just can't help yourself?...try being nice it makes you sound more reasonable. .. a little.


287 posted on 05/17/2006 7:31:38 PM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: Torie
I understand that. What I'm arguing against is that you can round up the votes for federally issued biometric ID cards. I need a license to drive on public roads. Why do I need a federal biometric ID card to obtain employment?

I'm moderate on the issue but my fellow travelers on the right and the loons on the left are not so moderate. How do you sell this?

"Sir, since we won't secure the borders we are going to require that you give give us fingerprints, a voice scan and a copy of your eyeball in closeup if you care to work anymore."

288 posted on 05/17/2006 7:31:42 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mo1

What did you answer??????


289 posted on 05/17/2006 7:33:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mo1

OK, I'm easy, make it 2%. Turning in illegals the police run into at a crime scene, is rounding error. I am not sure frankly how the police identify illegals. I don't carry my passport around myself, or my birth certicate, with the wet certification stamp.


290 posted on 05/17/2006 7:33:14 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Tammy8
The truth is MSNBC said King said Rove said that President Bush said that. That is too many he saids for me to take it as a quote.

Someone was spamming FR threads this afternoon with that as a quote, but I need to hear it a little more direct than that myself.

Huh? What does MSNBC have to do with it? The quote was attributed to King, and reported by Associated Press (NOT MSNBC) and picked up across the country in news stories. It was one of many quotes from Representatives of the House.

291 posted on 05/17/2006 7:34:25 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Mo1

The borders and illegal immigrants are the executives responsibility. Yes the rest have performed miserably as well but they take their lead from above. It's not just President Bush, it's been every President from President Reagan through President Bush.


292 posted on 05/17/2006 7:35:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Because it is necessary to have a hack proof ID card, or the flood will continue. Check box A or B. The Right will come to love the idea. In fact, I think they are falling in love as we speak. Romance is in the air.


293 posted on 05/17/2006 7:35:15 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Les_Miserables

YOu know, I'm really a nice person, as are most who post here. I guess I'm tired of the attacks, trying to give back, and failing les miserables.


294 posted on 05/17/2006 7:35:25 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Tammy8
MSNBC said King said Rove said Bush said... that is hardly a quote. Remember folks- no matter what is going on; the media is not your friend.

Google is your friend. MSNBC will not be found in your conspiracy.

295 posted on 05/17/2006 7:35:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Torie
I am not sure frankly how the police identify illegals

I'm thinking at those rallies when the illegals were yelling how they were here illegally and there were police officers standing right there might be a way to identify them

But hey .. what do I know

296 posted on 05/17/2006 7:37:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Torie

:-} Maybe they are. Not me though I won't even by one of those toll booth thingamajigs. I'd rather wait in line. It's the principle you know!


297 posted on 05/17/2006 7:37:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

you are totally missing my point and giving the states a pass


298 posted on 05/17/2006 7:38:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: notes2005
"The president has repeatedly and forcefully rejected amnesty," Conant said. "Under his plan, you're going to have to pay stiff fines, follow the law, stay employed, learn English and — after achieving all those things — go to the back of the line."

Just stop with that nonsense. Nobody is going to really track if they do all that stuff. It's going to be a new giant useless bureaucracy set up to keep track of these "immigrants" and it's going to be a big expensive joke. This is just fodder stuck in the bill to get it passed. They must think we're idiots if they think anyone is really believing those "rules" will actually be enforced.

Just seal the borders tight first and then we'll sort this illegals mess out after that. The problem is they don't want to wait because they know the opposition is growing and they want to cram it down our throats while they can.

299 posted on 05/17/2006 7:38:14 PM PDT by Reagan is King (Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it)
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To: jwalsh07

you sell it as a secure social security card.


300 posted on 05/17/2006 7:38:36 PM PDT by oceanview
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