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To: oceanview
c'mon, let's get real here

Amen. I'm sick of the DU-like comments. The only way to win this is via realistic means. This other crap is truly counterproductive.

Oceanview:

What do you think the odds are of a full-length fence?
Also, the Senate has a provision to disqualify those who've committed felonies from citizenship. Is that limited to those already convicted or will it extend to those convicted prior to applying for citizenship?
IOW, a lot of illegals have committed ID theft, used false SSNs etc, and destroyed people's (including children) credit. Will they lose the citizenship opportunity?

Personally, I'm opposed to the amnesty/citizenship stuff. I'm related and am friends with folks who've come here legally etc. Giving illegals citizenship within a few years it just junk when others have literally waited and toiled for decades.

73 posted on 05/17/2006 1:41:39 PM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8

its getting interesting, I will say that.

other posters seem to indicate that even the border patrol realizes that a full length fence, is probably not needed. there are certain corridors that require physical protection, those would channel any movement into other areas, which could then be patrolled/surveilled. so I don't think its a cut and dry "full length or nothing" issue. Is 370 miles enough? I don't know.

but its the politics that worry me - because seeing the vote pattern in the senate on these amendments, the coalition that supports the bulk of Hagel/Martinez is almost all the Dems plus the moderate Rs - and that will hold. If they can peel off enough Rs in the House in advance, any further compromises there would not materialize. and you know there is alot of arm twisting going on, when you see stories about Rove being sent in.


88 posted on 05/17/2006 1:54:02 PM PDT by oceanview
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