[lemura]

citizenship for many of the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants already in the country

This is the poison pill that must be stopped at all cost.

[tennmountainman]

Rove was said not be doing very well at the house. Good For the U.S. House.!

[TeenagedConservative]

Halfway there.

[Parmenio]

I've posted this before, but want to repeat it: the fence is eventually going to be built along the entire length of the border. It's going to turn into a bottomless barrel of pork. Like any government project, once it gets going it's not going to be stopped.

[Bigg Red]

"This is a critical moment. We oppose the militarization of the U.S-Mexican border," said Juan Jose Gutierrez, one of the event's organizers.

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I'm sure you do, Mr., just as a mugger opposes his victim's ability to protect himself.

[untrained skeptic]

The Senate voted to build 370 miles

I believe that the Senate bill has 200 miles before this and the House bill has 700 miles.

I think even the House version is really just a good start, but I will give the Senate credit for taking a step in the right direction.

However, unless they drop the amnesty, this bill needs to be killed and the House needs to pass a Border Security bill that includes their fencing provisions and try and get it though the Senate.

[Condor51]

Rove: "The president doesn't want to enforce immigration law because he's afraid he'll inconvenience someone who wants to come into the country for a better life."

WTF!!! That better be a joke!

[snowrip]

"What we have here has become a symbol for the right wing in American politics," countered Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill. He said if the proposal passed, "our relationship with Mexico would come down to a barrier between our two countries."

If intelligent border control is the symbol of right-wing politics, I'm a monkey's uncle. It may be a symbol of the wishes of the majority of Americans, but not the peolpe we have sent to Washington. So far, that is.

If democrats and the Mexican government believe that the border is the only thing that defines our relationship with Mexico... I guess we'd be better off without democrats, or a relationship with Mexico, or both. How sophomoric of Durbin.

[Timedrifter]

King said Rove told lawmakers Bush is sincere about enforcement. But, he added, "The president doesn't want to enforce immigration law because he's afraid he'll inconvenience someone who wants to come into the country for a better life."

When such a lack of respect for the rule of law is displayed from the very top its bound to filter down to the general public eventually.

[michigander]

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NAYs ---16
Akaka (D-HI) Bingaman (D-NM) Cantwell (D-WA) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI)	Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Kennedy (D-MA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Lieberman (D-CT) Menendez (D-NJ)	Murray (D-WA) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Sarbanes (D-MD)

Not Voting - 1
Rockefeller (D-WV)

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SA 3979. Mr. SESSIONS submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 2611, to provide for comprehensive immigration reform and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows:

Strike section 106, and insert the following:

SEC. 106. CONSTRUCTION OF STRATEGIC BORDER FENCING AND VEHICLE BARRIERS.

(a) Tucson Sector.--The Secretary shall--

(1) replace all aged, deteriorating, or damaged primary fencing in the Tucson Sector located proximate to population centers in Douglas, Nogales, Naco, and Lukeville, Arizona with double- or triple-layered fencing running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico;

(2) extend the double- or triple-layered fencing for a distance of not less than 2 miles beyond urban areas, except that the double- or triple-layered fence shall extend west of Naco, Arizona, for a distance of 10 miles; and

(3) construct not less than 150 miles of vehicle barriers and all-weather roads in the Tucson Sector running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico in areas that are known transit points for illegal cross-border traffic.

(b) Yuma Sector.--The Secretary shall--

(1) replace all aged, deteriorating, or damaged primary fencing in the Yuma Sector located proximate to population centers in Yuma, Somerton, and San Luis, Arizona with double- or triple-layered fencing running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico;

(2) extend the double- or triple-layered fencing for a distance of not less than 2 miles beyond urban areas in the Yuma Sector; and

(3) construct not less than 50 miles of vehicle barriers and all-weather roads in the Yuma Sector running parallel to the international border between the United States and Mexico in areas that are known transit points for illegal cross-border traffic.

(c) Other High Trafficked Areas.--The Secretary shall construct not less than 370 miles of triple-layered fencing which may include portions already constructed in San Diego, Tucson and Yuma Sectors and 500 miles of vehicle barriers in other areas along the southwest border that the Secretary determines are areas that are most often used by smugglers and illegal aliens attempting to gain illegal entry into the United States.

(d) Construction Deadline.--The Secretary shall immediately commence construction of the fencing, barriers, and roads described in subsections (a), (b), and (c) and shall complete such construction not later than 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act.

(e) Report.--Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall submit a report to the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate and the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives that describes the progress that has been made in constructing the fencing, barriers, and roads described in subsections (a), (b), and (c).

(f) Authorization of Appropriations.--There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to carry out this section.

[stopem]

"Amid increasingly emotional debate over election-year immigration legislation, senators voted 83-16 to add fencing and 500 miles of vehicle barriers along the southern border. It marked the first significant victory in two days for conservatives seeking to place their stamp on the contentious measure.

Excellent!

Now vote for the NG to secure the border as well. The flood of illegals must stop.

[Shermy]

""Sens. John McCain and Chuck Hagel replied heatedly it was not amnesty.

"Let's stop the nonsense," said Hagel, addressing fellow Republicans. "You all know it's not amnesty." Said McCain, addressing Vitter, "Call it a banana if you want to ... to call the process that we require under this legislation amnesty frankly distorts the debate and it's an unfair interpretation of it."

Vitter sought the last word. "Methinks thou dost protest too much."""

Ha! Good one by Vitter! Hegel and McCain are too corrupt and dishonest just to come out and say it's an amnesty, and we support it. Probably got a cue when Bush told a similar lie about "amnesty."

[kidd]

Building 370 miles of fence is worse than building no fence at all. It will simply encourage illegals to travel through the desert to locations where there isn't a fence. It will simply result in the deaths of more illegals, but it won't stop them from coming.

To be effective, the fence HAS to cover most or ALL of the border to completely discourage border crossings.

Perhaps this is a start, but considering how difficult it was just to get 370 miles approved, it is not encouraging that more miles of fence will be built.

[soccer_maniac]

Rove told lawmakers . . . “The president doesn’t want to enforce immigration law because he’s afraid he’ll inconvenience someone who wants to come into the country for a better life.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838263

[notes2005]

King said Rove told lawmakers Bush is sincere about enforcement. But, he added, "The president doesn't want to enforce immigration law because he's afraid he'll inconvenience someone who wants to come into the country for a better life."

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[Bikers4Bush]

"King said Rove told lawmakers Bush is sincere about enforcement. But, he added, "The president doesn't want to enforce immigration law because he's afraid he'll inconvenience someone who wants to come into the country for a better life." "

And there we have it folks, Bush's strategist admitting that the president does not want to enforce the very laws he swore he would when sworn in. Even worse, because he doesn't want to inconvenience illegal aliens. So instead of working to increase legal immigration and streamline that process through legislation he chose to out and out ignore the laws on the books and do whatever he damn well pleased.

I am beyond disgusted.

[Echo Talon]

its a start but it needs to be 1,900 miles.

[RonF]

Somebody help me out, if you will. I'm trying to figure out what my representative voted on the original House immigration bill. Where do I go to figure this out?

[OKIEDOC]

I am watching the Senate debate the immigration bill.

Senators Spector and Murdering Ted Kennedy seem to be doing everything possible to throw a monkey wrench into any amendments proposed by opponents to Amnesty..

I believe that the Senate is showing that it is incapable of passing laws that uphold Americas values.

I am absolutely disappointed so far with the way the Senate is conducting business.

I would expect some of this inefficiency in the house with the likes of Cynthia McKinney but not with Senators.

Folks our Senators are not listening to the voters that sent them to represent us.

Thank God for Jim Imhoff, Tom Corburn, John Cornyn, Jeff Sessions and others.

A pox on Spector and Kennedy.

[spectre]

""This is a critical moment. We oppose the militarization of the U.S-Mexican border," said Juan Jose Gutierrez, one of the event's organizers."

Juan Jose, you can just kiss my little ole southern grits..

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