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Senate Vote Gives Immigration Bill Steam
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/06 | Suzanne Gamboa - ap

Posted on 05/17/2006 9:47:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The Senate voted Wednesday to exclude illegal immigrants convicted of a felony or three misdemeanors from a chance at remaining in the United States under what critics say is an amnesty program.

The unanimous vote on an amendment that before Easter had been considered a "poison pill" provided added momentum for broad immigration bill that would give legal status to millions of illegal immigrants and put many of them on a path toward citizenship.

The amendment by two of the bill's leading opponents, Republican Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona and John Cornyn of Texas, was softened Tuesday in negotiations with the legislation's supporters. The sponsors agreed to include exceptions for hardship cases and those who didn't know a deportation order had been issued for them, winning the additional support.

"We want to keep those who could harm us, the criminal element, out," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., one of the authors of the bill. "Those who could benefit us ought to remain."

Critics of the legislation aren't giving up, however, and planned to keep trying to reshape the bill.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (news, bio, voting record), R-Ala., offered an amendment Wednesday that would erect more fencing along the nearly 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexican border, an idea similar to one in an enforcement-only bill passed by the House in December.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said Wednesday that lawmakers increasingly realize the need for a comprehensive plan that goes beyond trying to stop people at the border.

"If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient. People will go up over it, around it, in order to get a job in this country," Frist said on CBS' "The Early Show."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bill; borderfence; gives; senatevote; southernborder; steam
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To: NormsRevenge
The sponsors agreed to include exceptions for hardship cases and those who didn't know a deportation order had been issued for them

So, all a rapist/murderer has to do is say he didn't know he was ordered deported and that wins him citizenship and a lifetime of free welfare for him and 700 of his closest relatives?

21 posted on 05/17/2006 10:00:43 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: goldstategop
At the end of the day, the law is not going to be enforced and criminal aliens will be allowed to stay here.

Increased enforcement can be reversed in the future. However, citizenship, one granted, can not be reversed.

22 posted on 05/17/2006 10:01:54 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Youngman442002
...there are going to be another 10 million within the next year

I've read that the Senate-Bush Amnesty and Immigration incrase plan will add 100-190 Million in the next 20 years. So yes, that could be almost 10 per year, and it would all be Legal.

Aren't our politicians great?

23 posted on 05/17/2006 10:03:48 AM PDT by RodgerD
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To: NormsRevenge
"...and those who didn't know a deportation order had been issued for them..."

"But I didn't know", "alright then welcome to America help yourself to her bounty".
24 posted on 05/17/2006 10:03:55 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: NormsRevenge

25 posted on 05/17/2006 10:04:03 AM PDT by Gritty (The actual job illegals will do that over half of Americans won't do is vote Democratic-Vanderleun)
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To: NormsRevenge

"...."We want to keep those who could harm us, the criminal element, out," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., one of the authors of the bill. "Those who could benefit us ought to remain." ....

could benefit us 'by voting democratic'(isn't that what the swimmer really means)


26 posted on 05/17/2006 10:04:09 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: NormsRevenge; All

THIS FELONY PROVISION IS IRRELEVANT!!!

YOU CAN PETITION FOR A WAIVER OF EXCLUSION AND STILL GET IN!!!!!


THIS FELONY PROVISION IS A SCAM!!!!


see http://wwww.uscis.gov under forms "waiver of excludability"


27 posted on 05/17/2006 10:04:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NormsRevenge

To ALL

We have lost the Senate.

Write or call your Representative in the House!

They must hold, or life as we know it in the US will change forever.

Quit bitching and start calling or writing.

We MAY be able to stop this.


28 posted on 05/17/2006 10:05:09 AM PDT by EEDUDE (A penny saved is......a penny Congress overlooked.)
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To: mewzilla

The hardship provision makes the ENTIRE BILL meaningless it essentially makes all 11 million 100% citizenship bound.

100% amnesty.

The MSM is in total blackout of the truth.

THE BELWAY IS IN A CONE OF STUPIDITY. (see cone of silence)


29 posted on 05/17/2006 10:06:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EEDUDE

It truly is sad to watch the death of America


30 posted on 05/17/2006 10:07:00 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: Enterprise

People will go up over it, around it, in order to get a job in this country,"

Well then the big duh! would be.......make it financially devastaing for employers to hire them. The idiocy of some of these people astounds me. They are totally unable to come to a common sense solution.


31 posted on 05/17/2006 10:07:02 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Youngman442002
I don't know what to do...I know 80% of Americans want the border secured...but the politicians are not listening...there are going to be another 10 million within the next year....they are running over...its going to destroy the country...I can't figure out why they want to destroy the country...I am pissed

This is why I may not vote. Maybe ALL incumbents, regardless of party need to go.

I just know the Republican/Free Republic mantra of "Republicans suck, but Democrats suck even more!" is just not enough to get me to the polls anymore.

32 posted on 05/17/2006 10:07:26 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (I hereby re-christen the Republican Party as "The Flaccid Party")
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To: Gritty

Don't laugh, that is next. Just wait. The third amendment may get some workout soon.


33 posted on 05/17/2006 10:08:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mewzilla
Keep it up RINOSs the jig is up, you're more in sync with Presidente Fox than us.

We get it and hopefully you've set yourself up in a new day job.

The next Constitutional Convention will throw out the insane idea that any of you vermin slimes in D.C. "deserve" a lifetime pension for voting away OUR RIGHTS!

34 posted on 05/17/2006 10:08:41 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://news.aol.com/politics/story/_a/senators-hammer-out-immigration-details/n20060517093809990001?cid=771


They also voted 69-28 to scuttle a Democratic amendment to exclude foreigners and recent illegal immigrants from a new guest worker program.


The Senate also approved on a voice vote an amendment reducing the number of foreigners who could participate in the guest worker program annually from at least 325,000 to no more than 200,000. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., also won approval for his proposal to add 1,000 more Border Patrol agents this year, 100 helicopters and 250 power(swift) boats.


35 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:57 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: NormsRevenge

OATH OF OFFICE
I, Loyal Citizen of the Republic, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

PRESIDENTIAL OATH OF OFFICE
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

ARTICLE IV SECTION 4 CONSTITUTION
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican (a government in which supreme power is held by the citizens) Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Tell me again we cannot accomplish something…
Suffrage
Slavery
Civil rights
WW I
WW II
Accepts more immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.
Provides more aid to other nations than any nation in the world.

Definition of Treason
1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.


36 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:59 AM PDT by intelligent squid
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To: NormsRevenge
"If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient. People will go up over it, around it, in order to get a job in this country," Frist said on CBS' "The Early Show."

If you build a bureaucracy with the power to confiscate the assets of Americans who are suspected of cheating on their taxes, people will still cheat on their taxes.

Would the Majority Leader draw the same conclusion about the tax laws?

37 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:08 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: princess leah

I like the idea of Guard dogs....how many do we have
in the country and who can train and house a few thousand?
That is the question? Jake


38 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:31 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: NormsRevenge

Do you believe the United States government should secure our borders and ports before discussing so-called immigration reform?

Yes 97% 16219 votes
No 3% 529 votes

Total: 16748 votes

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/


39 posted on 05/17/2006 10:14:54 AM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: IrishMike

That is 00123

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00123

Vote Summary

Question: On the Motion to Table (Motion to Table Dorgan Amdt. No. 4017 )
Vote Number: 123 Vote Date: May 16, 2006, 04:10 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Motion to Table Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 4017 to S. 2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 )
Statement of Purpose: To prohibit aliens who are currently outside the United States from participating in the H-2C guestworker visa program.
Vote Counts: YEAs 69
NAYs 28
Not Voting 3


40 posted on 05/17/2006 10:16:03 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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