[Bahbah]

Whether this is amnesty or not is where Tony and I part company. The follow up stuff will never be done. But I still love him. "Linguistic precision is important here. People say this is amnesty. It's not."

I still think it is.

[Ron in Acreage]

Les Kinsolving asked if the WH should take down their walls etc. He's awesome! Tony just laughed.

[FreedomNeocon]

Part ways how... he was explaning a term not defending a policy.

Tony is basically saying "amnesty" would be a pardon for a crime meaning it is just forgotten. He was saying that the plan is more of a mass trial where all defendants plead guilty and get a plea deal where they pay a fine and do some 'community service' (learn English, keep job) while they wait at the back of the line for full citizenship. In return they do not go to jail or have to leave the country.

They do avoid 'jail time' or 'deportation', but Tony is just explaining the accuracy of the term is off because it implies implicit forgiveness of crimes, not 'restitution' followed by forgiveness.

The core of that issue is that many believe the only 'restitution' for illegally coming to the country is to kick them back out. Which is a valid argument, but again not the one Tony was giving a rebuttal to.

[Txsleuth]

You have to admit Tony is really cute, though, as he tries to explain the difference between amnesty and guest worker program....LOL

I love it when they asked why Pres. Bush is goint to Yuma, and he said "Cause it is a neat place?"...

[GretchenM]

It's sort of a grandfathered amnesty with a penalty clause.

I'd liken it to George W. Bush having the wood floor sanded in the Oval Office. Somebody's gotta clean up the mess left by prior administrations.