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The Empty Threats of Evangelicals
Townhall.com ^ | May 17, 2006 | Nathan L. Gonzales

Posted on 05/17/2006 12:15:13 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie

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1 posted on 05/17/2006 12:15:13 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie

That would be ignorant if they did that IMO.

That would be like donating to Satanic cults to show how much you love Christians.


2 posted on 05/17/2006 12:17:26 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
That would be ignorant if they did that IMO.

I agree not supporting Republicans would be like shooting your own foot. Bush and Republican Senators that aren't up for reelection seem to be the problem at this stage of the game. Possible solutions are give the Dems Bush to impeach and recall the problem Senators.

3 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:50 AM PDT by one more state (The old bait and switch, the guard is the bait and Mexican Amnesty is the switch.)
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To: one more state

How do you give the Democrats Bush to impeach, I didn't get that part?

And if there was a big desire to recall Senators, then why aren't they recalled like Gray Davis was as Governor?


4 posted on 05/17/2006 12:36:27 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

There is not a big call to recall Senators, and there is nothing to impeach Bush on. I'm just spouting off.


5 posted on 05/17/2006 12:40:51 AM PDT by one more state (The old bait and switch, the guard is the bait and Mexican Amnesty is the switch.)
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To: one more state
I'm having a semi-cow over the President not having the wall up already as well, but I do think it has to do with not destabilizing Mexico in the process.

We still need to secure the borders, despite the effect to Mexico and Canada. We are at war and some moon god people would love to slip in with nukes and give us a nuclear tan line.
6 posted on 05/17/2006 12:44:21 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: one more state
Your suggestion is idiotic in the extreme! Did you think about what you posted, before you posted that, or was it just an emotional reflux, of the worst possible sort?
7 posted on 05/17/2006 12:48:00 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie

Good article. We need to stick together and advance our conservative adgenda. I won't be sitting out this coming election.


8 posted on 05/17/2006 12:52:55 AM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie

Some FReepers would be wise to read this article.


9 posted on 05/17/2006 12:54:56 AM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: nopardons; one more state
I agree, but isn't that what most FReepers are actually calling for, without, of course, admitting it, when they talk of sitting out November?

There was an analysis posted yesterday of who would suffer if we sat home in November, and it would be some of the most conservative Senators and Reps, with the exception of Shays and a few others. So the "boycott" would in fact leave RINOs in and toss out conservatives. That WOULD be giving the Dems Bush to impeach.

So I agree, the suggestion IS idiotic in the extreme, but I don't understand the surprise--supposed conservatives around here are calling for action (or inaction) that would do just that on a daily basis around here.

P.S. Regarding MS's "the Guard is the bait" tagline comment: Gee, I could have sworn the Guard is what everyone around here was asking for all along. And then today Cheney talks up a wall, or the more reality-grounded version (a number of walls and fences).

That sure shows the mentality around here: Bush gives us what we ask for, what a liar he is!

10 posted on 05/17/2006 12:56:48 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Real Conservatives don't sit home on election day)
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To: Ranald S. MacKenzie
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Suggesting that evangelicals "invest" into both parties gives away his wishful thinking.

The left is no longer a place where Christian thesis (which is correct behavior according to the Word of God) could have any say., the left is antithesis- a "whatever feels good", or picking and choosing of what scripture to extrapolate at the very best is all that could be achieved. That is dangerous and destroys the church, so why promote that in government.

The evangelists aren't that stupid to divide their power and make themselves even weaker. They'll just do a little picking and choosing themselves, get rid of the rino's and put in someone else who keeps their word. Eventually the numbers will be there.

11 posted on 05/17/2006 1:00:08 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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has to do with not destabilizing Mexico in the process

Don't you think Mexico is already unstable? The President said the border patrol turned back 3 million people. I understand all of them were probably not Mexican, but even if it was 2 million I'd say there's a problem.

12 posted on 05/17/2006 1:03:48 AM PDT by one more state (The old bait and switch, the guard is the bait and Mexican Amnesty is the switch.)
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And then today Cheney talks up a wall,

If you're referring to the interview with Rush, Cheney did so begrudgingly and talked more about a virtual wall.

13 posted on 05/17/2006 1:07:19 AM PDT by one more state (The old bait and switch, the guard is the bait and Mexican Amnesty is the switch.)
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Yes, unfortunately, this mordant idiocy is what quite a few FREEPERS have been posting and not just this week. These are the CUT OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE UNAPPEASEABLES, whose numbers appear to have grown, as of late.

The people calling for staying home/voting fringe, are not only political naifs, but not CONSERVATIVES! Conservatism is not supposed to be supported by emotional, childish, non-thinkers; that's the Dems.

I can't figure out the cavailing around here, either. The president gave them what they said they wanted, but now they say it's NOT what they wanted at all. Now, they say it's not enough. Oh course it's not enough; NOTHING is ever "enough" for them.

14 posted on 05/17/2006 1:07:26 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Nathan Zachary

I should add that it's one thing to get elected (and we elect more than a president) and it's another to stay there. Campaign $$$ are important if someone in the house or senate wants to stay there, so they have to listen to who puts them there.

The President is only ONE person with a veto. Bills are put through and amendments are made by a majority effort.


15 posted on 05/17/2006 1:08:46 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: one more state

Fox is at the end of his term. There is soon to be an election in Mexico and one of the candidates is much like Chavez. So no, Mexico could get a whole lot less stable.


16 posted on 05/17/2006 1:09:40 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: one more state

I read hsi words, in print, and he will be held accountable for them, I don't you to spin for the Minutemen.


17 posted on 05/17/2006 1:13:58 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Cowtowing to the Bush haters ends now)
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To: nopardons; durasell
Yes, unfortunately, this mordant idiocy is what quite a few FREEPERS have been posting and not just this week. These are the CUT OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE UNAPPEASEABLES, whose numbers appear to have grown, as of late.

I actually told someone I wasn't coming around here anymore today, but I figured, Why let those idiots chase me off?

But as of right now, I am no longer bothering to pander to these SAVAGE!Weiners. They bitch, they whine, and when the discussion with Bush BEGINS they start by calling him a liar, instead of saying "OK, now we're talking, this is a good beginning now let's explore what we think is really needed."

These are not serious people, and those of us who think they're a bunch of babies have to start pointing that out to them and not giving them a cookie everytime they start crying. They run on emotion and hate and get off on calling the President of the US at a time of war a liar, Jorge, etc.

The rest of us around here have been far, far too appeasing to these jerks. I can't tell you how many times I've posted or discussed information and facts and got no response or childish "Gotcha!" crap over tiny details.

They can all stand out in the desert with their Red Ryder BB Guns and claim to be the only ones who REALLY care about America, as they have so casually spouted for a month now, while the rest of us will discuss REAL solutions, like the employer-based one I was talking about today.

The SAVAGE!Weiners have gotten their last attempt at civility they will be getting from me. From now on I treat them as the illogical, self-loathing, ignorant whiners they are.

18 posted on 05/17/2006 1:19:57 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Cowtowing to the Bush haters ends now)
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To: Darkwolf377
LOL...I know how you feel, but yes, I guess giving up, or even just ignoring them, isn't a great idea.

I try to just post facts, in the hope that some will finally manage to get through to them; but, reality is something which they are incapable of grasping.

19 posted on 05/17/2006 1:26:11 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I try to just post facts, in the hope that some will finally manage to get through to them; but, reality is something which they are incapable of grasping.

I have resigned from the Trying To Reason contingent after their retarded reaction to Bush's speech. He is the President of the US, for ALL of us, not just some goofballs who have meetings in their cellars on Tuesday nights to talk about revolution while the wife is at prayer meeting.

20 posted on 05/17/2006 1:28:31 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Kowtowing to the Bush haters ends now)
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