The people calling for staying home/voting fringe, are not only political naifs, but not CONSERVATIVES! Conservatism is not supposed to be supported by emotional, childish, non-thinkers; that's the Dems.
I can't figure out the cavailing around here, either. The president gave them what they said they wanted, but now they say it's NOT what they wanted at all. Now, they say it's not enough. Oh course it's not enough; NOTHING is ever "enough" for them.
I actually told someone I wasn't coming around here anymore today, but I figured, Why let those idiots chase me off?
But as of right now, I am no longer bothering to pander to these SAVAGE!Weiners. They bitch, they whine, and when the discussion with Bush BEGINS they start by calling him a liar, instead of saying "OK, now we're talking, this is a good beginning now let's explore what we think is really needed."
These are not serious people, and those of us who think they're a bunch of babies have to start pointing that out to them and not giving them a cookie everytime they start crying. They run on emotion and hate and get off on calling the President of the US at a time of war a liar, Jorge, etc.
The rest of us around here have been far, far too appeasing to these jerks. I can't tell you how many times I've posted or discussed information and facts and got no response or childish "Gotcha!" crap over tiny details.
They can all stand out in the desert with their Red Ryder BB Guns and claim to be the only ones who REALLY care about America, as they have so casually spouted for a month now, while the rest of us will discuss REAL solutions, like the employer-based one I was talking about today.
The SAVAGE!Weiners have gotten their last attempt at civility they will be getting from me. From now on I treat them as the illogical, self-loathing, ignorant whiners they are.
What bothers me is how Bush plans to clean up what's spilled.
Blanket amnesty? No way. If Bush builds a tall wall, I want to see criminals tossed back over it, on a catapult if need be. I want to see the laws enforced that we have. There is no need to make new unenforced laws. I don't want illegal criminals getting welfare, free education and health care.
I want to see employers charged for hiring illegal criminals, as they should be. If we make the tit taste bad, many will go back the way they came. Will that get rid of all of them? No, of course not. How about something sensible, like giving employers, who say they need these workers, an pportunity to sponser as many as they need, then, if they pass criminal screens and the normal health checks, they can be given work permits and fast tracked for citizenship. Allow those who claim refugee status to stay and work while their claim is verified.
At least this way we will know who they are, and they will pay taxes. The way Bush is going about things is all wrong.
For those who say we are handing Bush over for impeachment, that's just silly, unless you are talking about his not upholding hi oath to protect our borders nd uphold the constitution and laws of the land.
I've always been a strong Bush supporter, but this has really got me P O'd. Would i 'sit home november? No way, and i would NEVER vote for a RAT. But, I would vote for an alternative to get rid of a rino if possible, and I hope that there are a few willing to put their hats in the ring in states where we have them, as I'm sure there are many other conservatives thinking the same as I am.
Thanks for defining conservatism. And here I'd thought that it was about adhering to the constitution as written, smaller government and that throwing money at a problem wasn't always the best solution. 40 plus years of working for something and it turns out I didn't even understand what it was.
What remains unsaid is that the problem isn't people sitting on their hands come election time but the thousands of die hard foot soldiers that stuff envelopes, make telephone calls and get people to the polls on voting day. You seem to be saying that they should somehow get enthused and ignore the big spending constitution ignoring party and work like dogs, for free mind you, anyway.
Oh, they, like me, will hold their nose and vote republican but I'm interested in how you propose to motivate them to put in 20 hour days for a party that seems to spit on their values. Scare them that unless they work hard they'll be electing democrats? Convince them that the last six years has been a dream? Or maybe just a head fake to confuse the media and that republicans have been "just kidding"? Oh, how about calling them names and telling them they're not conservatives? That's always a good way of encouraging people to work really hard for you; insult them.
In the past, as far back as Nixon, it was about party building and how hard work would eventually yield a conservative party and for decades that was good enough but then the future was here, we had a majority and many feel that we met the enemy and he was us.
So I'll be looking forward to your plan for convincing those people to get back to work so they can work to elect big government, big spending, constitution ignoring legislators because if you know of a way you're smarter than anyone in the republican party.