Posted on 05/16/2006 7:14:31 PM PDT by blam
MP told she is 'not a citizen'
By Joan Clements in The Hague
(Filed: 17/05/2006)
The Dutch MP who lied to gain asylum fought back tears yesterday as she confirmed she was resigning her seat after being told her citizenship may be withdrawn.
Somalian-born Ayaan Hirsi Ali also said she was leaving for America. She said her job was now "impossible" after a "shocking" letter from Rita Verdonk, the immigration minister, saying Miss Hirsi Ali could no longer consider herself Dutch because of the lies she told the immigration authorities in 1992.
In a word, 'yes'...
Along with all of those other 'Dimocrats' at the American Enterprise Institute? (?)
Right... You believe the Muslim "family" that has been "dishonored" by her... That would just as well stone her on her return...
This woman has been the subject of many threads here for some time.
A "bump" is to bring activity to the thread to keep it active so others will see it.
"ROFL" is rolling on the floor laughing
A "troll" is someone that gets on a thread to get everyone up in arms, angry etc... Basically fishing for an intense response. Usually by someone new that only wants to disrupt.
Unless she hopped a direct flight from Somalia to the Netherlands, which I seriously doubt existed then (or now), it must have been patently obvious at the time she gave the false info, that the Netherlands wasn't the first country she landed in that officially qualified as "safe".
"But the attacks on me and the "ignorant" posters was out of line."
Actually it was not out of line.
Ignorant simply means unknowing. It doesn't mean stupid.
You were ignorant with the comment you made. Having someone call you on it is the cost of posting a comment on a subject you clearly didn't know anything about.
It happens to all of us...
Yeah, me too. She certainly wouldn't have been safe from that in Ethiopia or Kenya (hopefully Germany is pretty good at suppressing that practice). Though in nearly all cases, if that's going to be done, it's done long before the age she was when she fled (usually before or at puberty). Which brings me to the more puzzling lie: why would she have needed to lie about her age, when she was 22? I'm all for bringing her here -- I trust the judgement of the AEI, and figure we can use all the energetic anti-Muslim-extremism voices we can get. But I would like to hear her explanation.
It's tough to say where to come down on this one. The Dutch certainly have the right to enforce their immigration laws, sad stories notwithstanding (just as we do). On the other hand, this woman certainly took a courageous stand against Islamofascism, and one wonders if the Dutch don't view deporting her as an act of expediency to appease the "Mohammed Cartoon Jihadis".
She was trying to hide from her husband (forced marriage). She also changed her name to make it more difficult for him (and her family) to find her.
She'd been mutilated when she was a girl. Whether before or after the fact, who would want to stay with a people who would do that, along with all of the other restrictions a former Muslim couldn't stand?
Your explanations of what these things are was much appreciated.
Actually, the Dutch parliament is in major disarray due to the anger that the Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk expedited the stripping of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's citizenship due to political reasons. Many Dutch politicians are just short of screaming at each other over this situation.
The United States is one of the few places left in the world to which someone could flee from the Islamofascists and their politically correct enablers. Maybe also Australia and a few other places could take someone in who is being persecuted. Europe pretends to be secular and tolerant but they enforce much of what the Islamic theocrats want. Much of the so-called West is eager to take up the yoke of dhimmitude.
Well put.
Strange, isn't it? that the Dutch are suddenly making an example of the *only asylum-seeking Moslem* living in the Netherlands. I'll bet she's the only one who lied on her application. And the only Moslem immigrant there under false pretenses. I'm sure the murdering subhuman slime who killed Theo were there completely legally.
Thanks Blam, very interesting thread (well, most of it). Thanks also to AmishDude, blinachka, antiguv, and zeppo for reiterating the part about the job waiting for her here in in America for those who have very low reading comprehension. :'D
why is she allowed to come here??????
Do we really want her? Do you know who she is?
Are you an Islamofascist creep who wants to see a woman who has spoken out forcefully against the enemies of Western civilization raped and murdered? I only ask because that's certainly what would happen to her if she was sent back to Somalia.
This thread alone is enough almost to make me want to distance myself from the anti-immigration crowd at FR and embrace Bush't immigration proposals complete with the ridiculous amnesty onto a track for citizenship.
Everyone who graspe at this attack on this brave woman by the Muslim-loving dhimmis of Eurabia as a basis for shallow immigration commentary should be ashamed of himself. Such crassness is worthy of DU.
Because we're lucky.
Fact: her real name is Ayaan Hirsi Magan. She said she changed it to prevent her family from finding her after running out on her new husband during a visit to Germany.
Fiction: she told Dutch authorities she was born in 1967.
Fact: she was born in 1969. She said she lied to prevent Dutch authorities from tracking her real identity.
Fiction: she claimed to have fled to Holland from war-torn Somalia.
Fact: she caught a train from Germany, following her marriage to a Canadian cousin, after spending more than a decade in Kenya. She spent only seven years in Somalia as a young girl.
Thought you might like to read the truth. Sorce is UK newspaper
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm
She is expected to head for Washington, to work for the conservative US think tank American Enterprise Institute.
Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk has said that in her view Ms Hirsi Ali's lies about her name and age make her Dutch citizenship - granted in 1997 - invalid.
She may expect a warmer welcome in the US, where Time magazine has named her one of the most influential thinkers of our time.
it figures...........
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