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An 'OPEC' with nuclear weapons?
Japan Times ^ | May 17, 2006 | DAVID WALL

Posted on 05/16/2006 6:51:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

LONDON -- When I was in Moscow a few months ago I got into an argument with a retired high-level NATO official.

I was arguing that the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), despite its humble origins, had become an important multilateral institution of global geopolitical significance.

My case was based on the way in which the organization's 2005 summit meeting in Astana, the new capital of Kazakhstan, called on the United States to remove its troops from Central Asia, with observer countries India, Pakistan, Iran and Mongolia raising no objections.

I also drew attention to the joint Russia and China military exercises held in China last July under the auspices of the SCO and in the presence of senior defense officers from the organization countries.

The ex-NATO official didn't buy my argument, saying he thought that the SCO was an irrelevance on the international stage. I wonder if he still thinks that?

Not a lot of people know what the SCO is. It was set up as the Shanghai Five by the Chinese after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

This left China with three new borders with newly independent Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Disputes over those borders were left over from Soviet times, as was the continued dispute with the fifth member, Russia, over its 4,300-km border between Russian Outer Manchuria and Chinese Inner Manchuria.

A series of confidence-building measures, like moving troops away from border areas, led to successful negotiations over border lines. China was also interested in working with the Central Asian countries on counterterrorist activities, on the development of their markets for Chinese goods and on getting access to their deposits of oil and gas.

Although Uzbekistan does not have a common border with China it was invited to join as a full member.

Mongolia was also invited to join, but it only took on observer status (Afghanistan was invited but refused). After Uzbekistan joined, the Shanghai Five was renamed the SCO at a founding summit meeting in Shanghai in 2001.

It was also given a formal constitution, a Beijing-based secretariat and an antiterrorist unit based in Tashkent, capital of Uzbekistan.

Initially Russia did not take the Shanghai Five and later the SCO all that seriously. It kept a watching brief on Chinese activities in its Central Asia backyard.

At various points it dampened ambitious Chinese plans to expand the activities of the organization, for example into developing a free trade area. Two things changed all that -- the arrival of U.S. troops into the area after 9/11 and the purchase by China of oil fields in Kazakhstan.

Since 2003 Russia has been taking the whole thing more seriously and working with China to expand its scope and agenda. It took the lead in pressing for the membership to be expanded by inviting Iran and India to join as observers in 2005, in response to which China insisted that Pakistan be invited, too.

They both agreed that America's strange request for membership in 2005 be turned down.

In January this year the secretary general of the SCO, Zhang Deguang, told the West not to worry about the SCO, there was no legal basis for its expansion, he said. Then in April, he reversed this position; suddenly the legal problems and lack of rules fell away and he announced that Iran, India, Pakistan and Mongolia would be invited to become full members at the July 2006 summit meeting to be held in Shanghai. I wonder who leaned on him?

After Zhang's announcement, Iran started crowing. Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mohammadi was in Moscow the week after the announcement and expressed the opinion that this newly expanded grouping of autocratic and dictatorial states (India aside) would "make the world more fair."

He also talked of the oil- and gas-producing countries getting together to coordinate their activities as energy-producing countries by forming an "Iran-Russia oil and gas arc." An OPEC with nuclear weapons?

The expanded SCO would have four of the world's known eight nuclear powers, and probably the most warheads; no wonder then that Iran would like to join that group.

There is no doubt that China is the driving force in the SCO. In his 2006 "state of the union" speech on May 10, Russian President Vladimir Putin did not mention the SCO in the section on foreign policy. He did talk about the Commonwealth of Independent States, the Union State with Belarus, the Eurasian Economic Community and the Common Economic Space.

These are all attempts by Putin to try to re-establish some of the glories of the Soviet Union. Not all of Russia's ex-colonies take these groupings seriously, or even belong to them. And just as the British Commonwealth does not have the key Western player in it, the U.S., none of these Russia led groups has the key "eastern player" in it, China. Russia is having to increasingly accept that its ability to project its power onto the world stage is dependent on working with China, having decided to move away from its leaning toward the West toward a tilt to the East.

While it is easy to understand why Russia now accepts that it must walk with China, it is less easy to understand what India is doing among these states whose only common denominators are a communist past or present and autocratic to ruthless dictatorial governments. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh even went to Tashkent at the beginning of May to have dinner with President Islam Karimov, just about the most autocratic and dictatorial head of state in the SCO. Why? Just being polite to another club member?

I wonder if the NATO people still think that the SCO is an irrelevant organization? I don't.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: antiamericanaxis; belarus; cccp; chicoms; china; coldwar2; communism; communists; eaussr; eurasiansovietunion; hegemony; india; kazakhstan; putin; russia; sco; soviets; sovietunion; ussr; venezuela
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1 posted on 05/16/2006 6:51:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse---


2 posted on 05/16/2006 6:55:18 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

...related.

US TOLD TO LEAVE CENTRAL ASIA [Russia & China demand "deadline."]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437369/posts


3 posted on 05/16/2006 7:05:27 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And Bush and Rice bloviate with the U.N., where Russia and China have gone on record as stating that they will NEVER support military force, which is the only thing that will stop the Hitlerite regime in Tehran from developing nuclear weapson with which to vaporize Tel Aviv and New York City.


4 posted on 05/16/2006 7:07:39 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

bflr


5 posted on 05/16/2006 7:38:19 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: tomahawk

Israel should announce something very simple.

If anyone attacks the State of Israel, including the Palestinians from Gaza and/or the West Bank, we will turn Beijing and Moscow into a parking lot.

End of Problem


7 posted on 05/17/2006 9:44:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats = The Culture of Treason)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...

Another PING!!!


8 posted on 05/17/2006 1:39:39 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Farmer Dean

The Union of Eurasian Soviet Socialist Republics.


9 posted on 05/17/2006 1:40:50 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Before announcing something grand, one better have the means to back such an announcement. Israel is not known to possess long range rockets [beyond medium range Jerichos] and Jericho payload is not that large either. Developing such missiles is possible, but will take both time and resources.
10 posted on 05/17/2006 2:19:45 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: EQAndyBuzz

"Israel should announce something very simple.

If anyone attacks the State of Israel, including the Palestinians from Gaza and/or the West Bank, we will turn Beijing and Moscow into a parking lot.

End of Problem"

Isreal lacks the power to counterbalance Russia and China. This is the job of the U. S.---and we better start facing reality pretty soon and getting or focus back to where it needs to be---where it was in the Cold War.


11 posted on 05/17/2006 6:32:44 PM PDT by strategofr (H-mentor:"pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it"Hillary's Secret War,Poe,p.198)
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To: All

Its time the US came up with a Pacific version of NATO. This should be more "look-Asiawards". By incorporating democracy in the constitution of such an organization, it will conveniently exclude the Chicoms. It can then go about inviting India, Japan, S. Korea, Australia, NZ, Mongolia and key members of ASEAN into such an alliance.

Such an alliance with an established super-power will prove more attractive than an alliance of wannabe's. SCO will die as a result or it will remain what it is. India doesn't really feel comfortable with SCO. Too many anti-India elements in them. But any such alliance in our backyard we either need to have a deterrence against or we will have to join it. The missile-defense alliance wasn't comprehensive enough. Can America throw up something more broad-based for us to be part of?


12 posted on 05/18/2006 5:11:46 AM PDT by MimirsWell (Kick 'em sino-puki dictatorshits)
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To: MimirsWell

Oh and to add to that, here's a secret. If Pakistan is in on this alliance, forget about India considering such an alliance any more seriously than SCO. The point is India needs to be given the recognition it deserves for persevering with democracy and non proliferation. IF the alliance treats India and Pakistan as equals, there'll be nothing in it for Indians to be part of. Just another bunch of useless meetings to spend taxes on.


13 posted on 05/18/2006 5:21:37 AM PDT by MimirsWell (Kick 'em sino-puki dictatorshits)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

lots of crescants and red in those flags


14 posted on 05/18/2006 5:30:58 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot; familyop

Presidents of Russia Vladimir Putin (left), Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbaev (second from the left), Uzbekistan
Islam Karimov (center), Kyrgyzstan Kurmanbek Bakiev (second from the right) and Belarus Alexander Lukashenko
(right) during the expanded session of the Eurasian Economic Community in the Marble Hall of Konstantinovsky Palace

SCO, EEC boost energy ties - May 9, 2006 - The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which includes China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, signed a memoradum of understanding on Monday with the six members of the Eurasian Economic Community -- Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, Xinhua news agency reported. "We agreed to give priority to energy cooperation, which is of common concern and important for regional development," said Zhang Deguang, SCO secretary-general.
15 posted on 05/20/2006 8:29:53 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Luka looka lika deer in headlights!


16 posted on 05/22/2006 6:41:02 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: familyop


17 posted on 06/15/2006 12:04:54 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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