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Venezuela May Sell Its U.S.-Made F-16s to Iran
Drudge

Posted on 05/16/2006 9:48:51 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe



TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; f16; hugochavez; hugoping; iran; venezuela
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To: Red Badger
One Raptor could take 'em all at once..............

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Our newer versions of our 16s and other current aircraft with the most modern systems should also be able to "brush them out of the way with much difficulty" as well. LOL

A couple of decades is often several generations in avionics and weapons technologies. We saw how far things progressed from GW1 to the War in Iraq. Huge delta.

41 posted on 05/16/2006 10:15:40 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Was Iran the eBay high-bidder????
42 posted on 05/16/2006 10:15:43 AM PDT by CaptainCanada ("Macht doch Eiern Dreck aleene!" (Take care of your own mess!).)
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To: West Coast Conservative

You're misquoting.


43 posted on 05/16/2006 10:16:21 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (We want our day: A day without hearing SPANISH ...)
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To: Ben Mugged
I trained Iranian pilots before the fall of the Shaw. Not good pilots.

I'm also sure they'd have a nice smelly, mushy cushion under their arses to if confronted by the best that the West has to offer. I'm sure we wouldn't send in our F-4s. LOL

44 posted on 05/16/2006 10:16:51 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
I hear these birds have done pretty well against the F-16's in head-to-head combat games. I don't think we need to worry too much about Achmed flying around in a bucket of bolts that Chavez probably couldn't maintain anyway.

F-16's in the hands of our boys or the Israeli's, properly maintained and with the training they get? Yes, I would be concerned.

F-16's that have probably been sitting in a hangar for a few years, covered in dust and barely touched, much less flown, in the hands of some Iranian who has an out of date manual (probably written in spanish) and almost no flight time? Not too worried about it.

Put up a few of these bad boys up in Iranian airspace and it will be a turkey shoot.


45 posted on 05/16/2006 10:18:15 AM PDT by Littlejon
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To: 2banana

My first thought too. In fact, those jets should be taken out now just for Chavez even considering it.


46 posted on 05/16/2006 10:19:28 AM PDT by Menehune56
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To: rhombus

South America is boiling over....Ecuador, Bolivia both seizing energy assets from foreigh investors, Brazil with its riots, Venezuela with its threats.

Wait til that socialist Mexico City mayor gets elected President.


47 posted on 05/16/2006 10:19:55 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Fruitbat

They were much more interested in partying than in learning flying. They do not take criticism well. They were pleasant enough but could not focus unless they were about to die. Never saw one in prayer although all were Muslim.


48 posted on 05/16/2006 10:20:33 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Hugo's F-16's are based on 35-year old technology and are obsolete, not to mention barely functional due to a lack of spare parts...


49 posted on 05/16/2006 10:22:08 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Sooth2222
(So we, in effect, cut off his parts supply, and so he's selling them to Iran, and the Iranians are going to pay him actual real money for these hangar-queens??? Or am I missing something here? Am I stupid or are the Iranians incredibly stupid?)

Exactly my first thought. Dumb & dumber.

Yup, hanger queens.

50 posted on 05/16/2006 10:22:28 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Bikers4Bush

You nailed that one.
It's weird to think there might be time I'd applaud the "downing"
(rather, drowning) of some F-16s.


51 posted on 05/16/2006 10:22:39 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Larry Lucido

As I recall, the last time the Iranians took over American weapons systems, nothing was operable after about 3 to 6 months.

At any rate, a more workable solution would be to take them out while they are on the ground in Venezuela and maybe the rest of their "air force" while we are at it.


52 posted on 05/16/2006 10:22:46 AM PDT by newcthem (All along I thought I was an American.......now I find that I am just a racist.)
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To: Walkingfeather
Hehe against Isreali pilots and their own advanced avionics??? That would be a great pay per view show.

I'd like to read about it in the papers, but paying a good $49.95 to see a white streak zoom into the horizon then see a little flash like a mosquito hitting the skeeter trap, is well, not worth the expense.

One thing that is bothersome, if Iran turns the F-16s into pilotless bomber drones. If an F-16 is flying low and fast and not responding to radio or Friend or Foe requests, it would only take a few minutes for the F-16 to reach a target across the Persian Gulf. US chain of command might not respond fast enough to the questionable threat. Assymetric attacks like that would only work once, but the first and only wave could cause serious damage to US bases in Qatar or elsewhere within close range of Iran.

53 posted on 05/16/2006 10:23:43 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

The decision announced Monday may be largely symbolic because Chavez has been buying the bulk of his weapons, including attack and transport helicopters, patrol boats and military transport airplanes, from Russia and Spain.

The first batch of 33 Russian helicopters arrived in Venezuela last month, and 33,000 of the 100,000 Russian Kalashnikov assault rifles that Chavez bought are expected this month. Caracas is also finalizing a deal with Spain to purchase eight military patrol boats and 10 military transport planes, and ramping up the training of a 2.5-million-member militia to fight a ``war of resistance'' against any U.S. invaders.

But the U.S. ban underlined Washington's increasingly sour view of Chavez as a ruler who has been undermining democracy in his oil-exporting country, regularly attacking the Bush administration and trying to export his leftist-populist ideology to


54 posted on 05/16/2006 10:24:38 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Sooth2222

Maybe the Iranian's want to bomb some sites in their own country and leave behind a signature of American technology sdoasto make it look like we did it.

All their bait and bluster has failed to draw us in so far andmaybe they fear waiting any longer so they will stoop to this level trying to make the evil west look bad.


55 posted on 05/16/2006 10:24:45 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Lunatic Fringe

It would be interesting if the entire squadron got shot down during the commute to Iran. ;)


56 posted on 05/16/2006 10:24:57 AM PDT by meyer (Permanently boycott all businesses that close for the May 1st illegal alien march!)
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To: Larry Lucido

"How well-maintained are they?"

Not Very

"Are Iranian pilots any good?"

Not Very

"Do they have spare parts?"

Not many


57 posted on 05/16/2006 10:26:10 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

During the Iran-Iraq War, the Iranians were using the F-14's for AWACS planes. I can't imagine they are worth anything now.


58 posted on 05/16/2006 10:26:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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FROM YAHOO

CARACAS, Venezuela - Venezuela is considering selling its fleet of U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to another country, perhaps Iran, in response to a U.S. ban on arms sales to President Hugo Chavez's government, a military official said Tuesday.

Gen. Alberto Muller, a senior adviser to Chavez, told The Associated Press he had recommended to the defense minister that Venezuela consider selling the 21 jets to another country.

Muller said he thought it was worthwhile to consider "the feasibility of a negotiation with Iran for the sale of those planes."

Even before the U.S. announced the ban on arms sales Monday, Washington had stopped selling Venezuela sensitive upgrades for the F-16s.

Chavez has previously warned he could share the U.S. jets with Cuba if Washington does not supply parts for the planes. He also has said he may look into buying fighter jets from Russia or China instead.

59 posted on 05/16/2006 10:26:46 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: meyer
It would be interesting if the entire squadron got shot down during the commute to Iran. ;)

You mean sunk. They would be going by boat.

60 posted on 05/16/2006 10:27:36 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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