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Reaction to Bush immigration speech
cnn ^ | 5/15/06 | cnn

Posted on 05/16/2006 2:19:26 AM PDT by wotan

(CNN) -- The following is a sampling of reaction to President Bush's speech on immigration Monday night in which he proposed deploying National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border:

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican:

Rohrabacher, a leading immigration critic in the House, said on CNN's "Larry King Live" that he was "very disappointed" by the speech.

"He's playing these word games about massive deportations again, which no one is advocating and does not do anything to further an honest debate," said Rohrabacher, who also took issue with Bush's distinction between a legalization process for illegal immigrants and amnesty.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; immmigration; speech
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To: ovrtaxt
If someone is determined to get into my house locks will not keep them out.

I know from where I speak. I live int the Memphis, Tenn. area.
21 posted on 05/16/2006 3:10:47 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: ovrtaxt
No, the argument is whether fences and walls work- not the intentions of the violator.

Walls sure did work to keep the people in the old soviet union in subjagation.

Seems that you admire the old soviets in their wall building expertise.

22 posted on 05/16/2006 3:12:23 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: ovrtaxt
It is not about intentions, but determination!
23 posted on 05/16/2006 3:12:52 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mariabush

So you just leave them unlocked, right? I mean, why try?

Okay, I'm getting a ticket to Memphis. See you later! And remember to take a trip to the grocery store!


24 posted on 05/16/2006 3:13:14 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: ovrtaxt

Yep- you are right. Bush is responsible for fixing all of the crime and corruption in Mexico. That would solve all of America's immigration problems.

Good one. What next? What else should Bush use his magic fairy dust to fix?


25 posted on 05/16/2006 3:13:34 AM PDT by KCRW
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To: mariabush
but you will not keep these people out if they want to come

Aw. Can't we at least make it a little difficult for them? Challenge them? Create a fence that will mimic natural selection so we might only get the strongest and smartest?

26 posted on 05/16/2006 3:14:27 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Dane

Oh, it's you!!! lol glad you could play along, Mr. Dane!

no, seriously, I have to go to work today and keep my American citizen workers employed. So I may not have much time to dink around with your ludicrous descent into goofiness.

Soooooo, what are the talking points? Go ahead, here's your big chance!


27 posted on 05/16/2006 3:16:00 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: mariabush; ovrtaxt

Israel's fence has almost ended those bombings. You and others have bought the lie a fence won't keep illegals out so I point out Israel's successful effort stopping those bombings proves you wrong. We trust fences at ALL our criminal detention facilities. Again, their successful employ proves you and other opponents to a physical barrier wrong.


28 posted on 05/16/2006 3:16:17 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: wotan

Vicente Foz can rest easy.


29 posted on 05/16/2006 3:16:35 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: mariabush
"If someone is determined to get into my house locks will not keep them out."

Nope...

But a shotgun will.

Look, I'm not advocating shooting people merely because they are illegally crossing a border, Really, I'm not. I'd rather have them here illegally than slaughtered.

But border control, like burglar control, is not a matter 'you can't keep them out'... it is a matter of to what lengths you are WILLING to go to protect what is yours.

30 posted on 05/16/2006 3:16:41 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: azhenfud
I never said that I oppose a fence. It will not keep them out, just slow them down!!!!
31 posted on 05/16/2006 3:20:07 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: KCRW

Oh, for crying out--

we can manage to pull off regime change in a hostile middle east, but not put pressure on a supposedly friendly neighbor, while they stab us in the back and oppress their own people? Please.


32 posted on 05/16/2006 3:20:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Dane

Dane, truly no comparison intended for our Hispanic fellows to islamite terrorists. Never had I insinuated such.

Merely I was pointing out the success of the barrier's employ.

You can understand that, can't you?


33 posted on 05/16/2006 3:20:40 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Dude, she's an expert. Who do you think you are? ;^)


34 posted on 05/16/2006 3:21:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: ovrtaxt; All
". . .and Mexico is a pissant dictatorship who regularly allows drug cartels and slave traders to violate our border. . ."

Well, elections are coming up soon in Mexico. . .and we have only to look at Venezuela (and Bolivia) to know that all this could be worse; much worse. We have to be careful as to how we stir this pot; lest we facilitate a Castro 'wannabe' emerging or exploding. . .into power, just south of California. . .(though, it would make it easier, of course, for all the 'Castro lovers' in Hollywood to enjoy the real 'fruits' of communism. . .so to speak)

Meantime, this situation has taken years of neglect and mismanagement. . .we cannot do an instant fix by decree. . .but this is a start. (would like to end the 'perks' for sure. . .and hopefully that will be next. . .and soon.)

35 posted on 05/16/2006 3:22:27 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal-free. . .or suffer the consequences)
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To: mariabush
If someone is determined to get into my house locks will not keep them out.

True, but I would make every attempt to kill an uninvited visitor trying to harm my family.

36 posted on 05/16/2006 3:22:45 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: spatso

Turned on CNN or maybe MSNBC last night...Tony Blankley was trying to shore up support for Bush's speech. He said it was a good 'first step', implying there'd be more to come. Let's hope so. Also, 6000 National Guard troops seems to be a top number, not a number to start with and upped if necessary. God forbid we militarize the border. It seems at this point that Mexico is gone as a nation. To cite figures from a Mexican poll of months ago, (so surely many more are in the US by now): a quarter of Mexico's population, the poorest, are already here. Half of those remaining were packing to head north,(the middle class). Whole villages are vacant. Fox admits remittances from the US are the biggest item in his budget, more than oil, drugs, everything else. The billions sent home from more than 20 million Mexicans in the US are keeping Mexico afloat. We're feeding corruption and worse. (Why is this a good thing? Especially when they bring that culture here?)Mexico complains that poverty and disease are spreading. Fewer doctors to treat the sick, fewer people to work and somehow it's not their fault.

Mexico's a sink with the drain pulled. Glug, glug. Everyone's gone like water down the drain. So we go in and straighten them out, (set them up again a la Palestine, a chore that awaits...ad infinitum), or we throw up our hands and say the border's gone. We've integrated with Mexico on their terms. It's bad, and what's worse, we were denied an honest discussion about this for years. Lied to over and over. If the democrats get in, however, it will be far worse.


37 posted on 05/16/2006 3:27:38 AM PDT by hershey
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To: ncountylee
I am not saying that you shouldn't!, but you cannot watch your house every minute! If someone wants in your house bad enough at some point they will make it.

People are willing to pay hundreds of dollars to climb in 100 plus degree truck and take a chance of making it across the boarder.
38 posted on 05/16/2006 3:28:07 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: wotan
Bush did not convince anyone that legalization of existing law breakers in any way contributes to controlling the border even though he spent half his speech trying to do so. As if that's not enough, he advocates increasing legal immigration as a means to reducing the influx of illegals. Net result of the amnesty by another name: up to 200 million immigrants from Mexico in the next 20 years! Such insanity! This is salved by temporary deployment to the border of a limited number of National Guard troops but without enforcement authority. Who is being fooled?
39 posted on 05/16/2006 3:29:35 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: KCRW

You made a really good point. Mexican crime and corruption isn't our business. But it became our business when we allowed and encouraged Mexico's ethnically cleansing. It's a cultural thing, and now it's in the US by the millions. We enabled Fox to not only get rid of poor illiterates, we turned them into a money-making machine.


40 posted on 05/16/2006 3:33:14 AM PDT by hershey
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