A Day Of Thanks (Not Moaning & Whining)

The Strata-Sphere ^ | May 15, 2006 | AJ Strata

[bobsunshine]

Today conservatives and Americans across this nation, especially those who voted for George W Bush, should be thankful for what we have accomplished and for having George Bush as President. My tolerance for the whiners who don’t get all they want, or who say the pace of getting America to become more responsive to conservative ideas is too slow, is totally used up. Tonight, when George Bush speaks his is going to discuss how we can take SOME steps towards getting a handle on immigration and the security threats it represents.

I want to give thanks to W for taking the war to the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and for not shrinking from his course when the French and Germans bawked, when the UN whimpered, when the left wailed and when the right ran away.

I want to thank him for protecting all our families and neighbors since 9-11.

I want to thank him for reducing taxes and pulling this economy together since my family just about went under due to the economic hits from 9-11, and now I am working a dream job exploring the solar system.

I want to thank W for protecting the lives of some of the embryos who otherwise would have become a product to harvest for spare cells (to make spare parts).

I want to thank W for making the education system accountable and force it to produce statistics on its performance.

Thanks also for giving my 80+year old parents a prescription drug plan so they can live out their lives with dignity and in the best health preventive medicine can offer. I know that at their age to fix things once their broken is much harder than keeping them from breaking in the first place.

Thank you as well to the immigrants who come here and extend the American fabric and re-establish respect for the family and the work ethic. I still believe working without papers is aking to driving a car which is not properly registered. While not legal, it pales next to the people I deal with everyday in my 75 mile commute on the busy and dangerous DC Beltway. For perspective, I do not thank all the drivers chatting on the phone, reading, eating, doing their face who risk my LIFE with their casualness. I am less concerned about the immigrant workers coming to do top notch work on my house than the insane drivers who could kill me or my family. Let’s not even discuss how little thanks I have for drunk drivers (and drunk is only a few drinks away).

I want to thank LJSTrata for putting up with me for so long and keeping this site going through its first Blogoversart (5/18/06).

I owe a big thanks to Powerline this week for naming us Blog of the Week - which is an extreme honor we will cherish.

I want to thank my kids and family for being who they are.

I do not have any words of thanks to he those who leak national secrets to the media because they cannot address their issues through our established political processes. None. Anomous leaks are not a badge of honor.

I have no words of thanks to those who are so frustrated they have turned on Bush when he needs our support, and threaten to sit out elections. Why would I have any thanks for that kind of action? I am thankful we avoided a President Gore and President Kerry. Gore would have lost his mind after 9-11 (look at how he handled the 2000 election). And Kerry would have been so confused about what to do he would have signed legislation beforing vetoing it.

I am thankful for our new allies in Iraq, Afgahnistan, the UAE, Qatar and Pakistan. They are not perfect allies, but they are better than enemies. Just like Bush is 100 fold better than a manic Gore or a confused Kerry. I thank Bush for doing all he did, and doing it despite the naysayers and quitters, the moaners and whiners, and especially the serial surrenderers. Thanks George Bush. And no thanks goes to anyone who gives us nothing on immigration because they could not get all they wanted. I am tired of the zero sum game. It is a game for fools.

[Peach]

I'm part of his base and know many, many freepers who are his base and we liked the speech and support the plan.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Red herring, and my apologies for the incorrect assumption.

But you can't honestly believe what you just posted?

Tancredo was just on Bill O'Reilly (thanks to the poster who had the heads-up), and pointed to the very false dichotomy you just posited:

Either repatriate 11,000,000 illegals, or make them citizens.

There is a very logical, very reasonable, and very prudent middle ground - which you would find about 99% of the "border trolls" would enthusiastically support:

1) Build a fence, add border patrol (stop the inflow)
2) Hold all employers responsible for verifying legal status to work in the US, at time of employment
3) As police, and others go about their daily jobs and encounter illegal aliens, then yes deport them. The ones most likely to be "found" this way - are the ones who most likely should be sent back home.

There's no need to make 11,000,000 people who don't see themselves in any way as "Americans", citizens. It's almost absurd to do so.

Those who oppose such a complete sell-out, are opposed on very reasonable, heartfelt grounds.

Not on hate, or extremism. You sound like a socialist when you mischaracterize that way.

Why not just start tossing around the term "right wingers"??

[ECM]

I'm not sure I'm seeing your point. What has mentioning names have to do with it? The point is that you believe that if somsone disagrees on this issue that they are a DNC plant (as you agreed with that portion of MJ's post) and their post history would bear this out. So, tell me, does my post history bear this out or no? What? It doesn't? Oh dear...who's the smart one now?

[MJY1288]

I agreed with everything the President said tonight, the only thing I would have done different is I would have placed more emphasis on those who hire illegals intentionally and the ways we need to improve the identification process. A good stern warning to the companies who hire them would have been my suggestion,

The difference between me and the majority of these pouting pitchforkers on this forum, is that I understand that I can't get everything I want and I understand that the President is not the President of the Republican Party or Conservatives, he is the President of the entire United States . So I know I can't get everything I want, all I can hope to get is about 55% to 60% of what I want, because that is the political makeup today

My question for them is, how much will we get from Hillary?

[ECM]

Hey, look! A voice of reason--but I'm sure he's little more than a DNC plant (and a troll to boot!) Better check his post history for sure...what was the formula again? If he disagrees with the prez on immigration he gets -100 points and is branded a DNC plant (regardless of the actual content of his contributions to this site)...think I've got it now.

[Bobbisox]

And how many illegals have you turned in today? Bush cannot do it all. We as citizens must help every day. One illegal at a time. Until we work as hard as President Bush, then we have nothing to complain about! Our President is our greatest hope. Look how many problems neglected in the 8 years prior that Bush has taken on. He needs our support now more than ever.

[kellynla]

"He's doing more to handle this problem than any president in your lifetime"

Wrong again!

There were dramatically more businesses fined for hiring illegals during the Clinton administration than Bush's.

try again

[Pukin Dog]

You should probably do yourself a favor and not post to me.

[MJY1288]

Did Clinton send back 6 Million border crossers?

[gumboyaya]

Wow what a retching night reading some of the responses, is this what its like at DU? When the dust settles you will be proud of your support, I know I will.

[Pukin Dog]

Sure, Bush could have done much better tonight. I wish after border enforcement he would have just stopped. But the House is not going to let the Senate control the debate, so I think in the end, whatever we get will be better then what we have right now. Pouting Pitchforkers? I like it. I might use that myself!

[Peach]

And there are dramatically more agents on the border, more spending on border security, more illegals deported, fewer catch and releases, etc. See -- two can play that game.

[SaxxonWoods]

Yep, I posted earlier today that the flames would be flying unless Bush ordered the Guard to shoot border crossers on sight. Those on the fringe always overestimate their numbers and influence, and are always first to insist they will take their footballs home. The fringe right and fringe left cancel each other, and are nothing to worry about.

Bush's border strategy is not harsh enough for me, but so what, his GWOT strategy isn't aggressive enough for me either.

What's important is...those strategies are the best I'm going to get at the moment, so I will support my president while I ask for more aggressiveness, respectfully. Bush responded on the Supreme Court, and he is moving our way on border security. This short-attention span expectation of gimme everything I want, just the way I want it or I'll pout should stop. It won't, because it's more tied to personality problems than pragmatism.

[MJY1288]

I stole it, so be my guest :-)

[HangnJudge]

And now for others who will not
lead, follow, or get out of the way

The nobler sort of man emphasizes
the good qualities in others,
and does not accentuate the bad.
The inferior does the reverse.

Confucius

If you will not stand up to lead this country
At least stop beating on those who try

[Wolfstar]

But you can't honestly believe what you just posted?

No only do I believe it, I know it for a fact. I've been active in local politics for years, and have met many people who espouse exactly that. I've read posts here on FR that say much the same thing.

There is a very logical, very reasonable, and very prudent middle ground - which you would find about 99% of the "border trolls" would enthusiastically support.

President Bush has attempted to take a middle ground between extremists on the Left and the Right, and he has been savaged for his stance. I respect people who disagree with him in a respectful manner. Those who don't just make me sick.

[Peach]

I've never been to DU, but it can't be much worse. That's because we have a lot of DU'ers posting here and causing minor hysteria. LOL

[mountainfolk]

Thanks for the uplifting post which I wholeheartedly agree with. Pres Bush once again took on the hard job of again addressing the illegal immigration problem. Now let us see if congress will do their part and followup. Congressmen Tancredo and King on BOR tonite were not accepting compromise so the beat goes on.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

I live in Los Angeles, and I sure as heck do not agree with the extremists who want mass roundups and deportation of illegals, a Berlin Wall on our southern border, and regular Army troops every few feet with orders to shoot to kill. That's what most of the hysterics want, even if they aren't honest enough to admit it.

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If you will recall, the guards on the Berlin Wall were on machine gun posts, ready to shoot anyone who tried to get out of East Berlin. Not the other way around.

I've heard a lot of Democrats use that analogy, though...