Posted on 05/15/2006 7:45:36 PM PDT by bobsunshine
Today conservatives and Americans across this nation, especially those who voted for George W Bush, should be thankful for what we have accomplished and for having George Bush as President. My tolerance for the whiners who dont get all they want, or who say the pace of getting America to become more responsive to conservative ideas is too slow, is totally used up. Tonight, when George Bush speaks his is going to discuss how we can take SOME steps towards getting a handle on immigration and the security threats it represents.
I want to give thanks to W for taking the war to the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and for not shrinking from his course when the French and Germans bawked, when the UN whimpered, when the left wailed and when the right ran away.
I want to thank him for protecting all our families and neighbors since 9-11.
I want to thank him for reducing taxes and pulling this economy together since my family just about went under due to the economic hits from 9-11, and now I am working a dream job exploring the solar system.
I want to thank W for protecting the lives of some of the embryos who otherwise would have become a product to harvest for spare cells (to make spare parts).
I want to thank W for making the education system accountable and force it to produce statistics on its performance.
Thanks also for giving my 80+year old parents a prescription drug plan so they can live out their lives with dignity and in the best health preventive medicine can offer. I know that at their age to fix things once their broken is much harder than keeping them from breaking in the first place.
Thank you as well to the immigrants who come here and extend the American fabric and re-establish respect for the family and the work ethic. I still believe working without papers is aking to driving a car which is not properly registered. While not legal, it pales next to the people I deal with everyday in my 75 mile commute on the busy and dangerous DC Beltway. For perspective, I do not thank all the drivers chatting on the phone, reading, eating, doing their face who risk my LIFE with their casualness. I am less concerned about the immigrant workers coming to do top notch work on my house than the insane drivers who could kill me or my family. Lets not even discuss how little thanks I have for drunk drivers (and drunk is only a few drinks away).
I want to thank LJSTrata for putting up with me for so long and keeping this site going through its first Blogoversart (5/18/06).
I owe a big thanks to Powerline this week for naming us Blog of the Week - which is an extreme honor we will cherish.
I want to thank my kids and family for being who they are.
I do not have any words of thanks to he those who leak national secrets to the media because they cannot address their issues through our established political processes. None. Anomous leaks are not a badge of honor.
I have no words of thanks to those who are so frustrated they have turned on Bush when he needs our support, and threaten to sit out elections. Why would I have any thanks for that kind of action? I am thankful we avoided a President Gore and President Kerry. Gore would have lost his mind after 9-11 (look at how he handled the 2000 election). And Kerry would have been so confused about what to do he would have signed legislation beforing vetoing it.
I am thankful for our new allies in Iraq, Afgahnistan, the UAE, Qatar and Pakistan. They are not perfect allies, but they are better than enemies. Just like Bush is 100 fold better than a manic Gore or a confused Kerry. I thank Bush for doing all he did, and doing it despite the naysayers and quitters, the moaners and whiners, and especially the serial surrenderers. Thanks George Bush. And no thanks goes to anyone who gives us nothing on immigration because they could not get all they wanted. I am tired of the zero sum game. It is a game for fools.
You may call that a blessing, I call it something else.
Thanks Peach. I didn't know that and that bears repeating.
Dumb is the easy way out. I have an ignorant co - worker who calls him Dumb all the time out loud for me to hear, yet I ignore her because she thinks I am going to argue with her. Yet this dip asked me if anyone survived flight 93. This uneducated dip also thought gas was a US commodity and it was drilled in our backyards. They have no knowledge of politics just what Michael Moore taught them a few years ago. It is hip to call the President Dumb. Don't forget his dad is a Dum Dum also!
I remember the conservative outrage at Dubya's dad over consenting to the take hike pushed on him by the Dems for support for Gulf War I.
Look what it got us.
Sorry hun - The FR poll showed over 70% saying they would not stay home from the polls and see DEMs get elected.
But just as you make up facts regarding GWB speech last night, you like to make up polls too (you could get a job with the MSM without a doubt).
I want to thank him for protecting all our families and neighbors since 9-11.
let me guess...you dont live in a border state
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You had a terror attack since 9/11? I missed that on the news.
Well, I was relying on other freeper's reports about Tancredo and Dobbs but it seems other freepers watched them too and had differing ideas.
I think they both liked parts of the program and didn't like other parts. That's part of the problem - we're never going to have a president who does 100% of what we want. Darn it :-)
And do you remember how Clinton was involving the INS with vote fraud?
That was my assessment of what Tancredo and Dobbs said. And it was my feeling too. I liked some of what President Bush said - see the live thread for my comments that I made while he said it.
But, I wasn't happy with the guest worker part. It is better than what he's been proposing, but it still has problems. The amnesty is still an amnesty no matter how he wants to portray it. No, it isn't a blanket amnesty and illegals don't get automatic citizenship, but it is still an amnesty and I'm against it. But my biggest issue is that the President still connects these two things with the border security measures. We saw with the 1986 amnesty that the promises may not be kept and we might end up with a bunch more amnestied illegals and still no border security. Temporary deployments of guard troops in suppport roles, virtual fences, and a temporary increase in funding will not permanently secure the border. We need to see some real, solid things to secure the border and that enforcement must be proven over time before we should talk about passing a guest worker program or any kind of special citizenship path for those who came here illegally.
This is not just my distrust, based upon past history, that we'll see illegal aliens rewarded and the border security efforts never coming to fruition. It is also practical in that no new guest worker plan can or will work unless the border is secured, crossings are controlled, and our laws and plans can actually be enforced in the interior. If the President wants his plan to work, he must consider this. He must accept the fact that time and world events were not kind to him during his presidency and his legacy is now not going to be the one that he wanted of enacting a new guest worker plan and giving citizenship to those already here. He was delayed by 9/11 and the War on Terror and other factors. To try to rush through a plan just to make sure he gets the credit for it would doom that plan to failure, and that won't do his legacy any favors at all.
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Not from what I saw. Both Tancredo and Congressman Peter King said on O'Reilly that we must hold off on dealing with the illegals already here until we have made major progress in securing the borders.
And they're right. Rewarding illegals now will just increase the numbers wanting to come here before the border security improves.
A reasonable post and if freepers could start talking with each other about this, we might actually get somewhere. Thanks for posting so nicely.
There were various reports, both opposed and supportive of some aspects of the plan. On this thread and others I pulled together a host of the reports freepers gave from watching Tancredo and Dobbs.
I wasn't satisfied with his talk about getting tough on employers. He didn't talk about punishing them, he talked about making it easier for them to verify legality.
It seems that the President has no desire to send any of the illegal aliens home who have illegally lived here for a while, illegally purchased homes, illegally held an illegal job for a period of time, etc. The fundamental disagreement that I have with him is that he has no desire to make that 12 million (or higher, depending upon the source) number go down at all. He's not talking about punishing lawbreakers, but rewarding them. That's where I disagreed with his speech. Rewarding lawbreakers is not a Republican or conservative value. I don't know how I could be expected to accept it.
Congrats on being such a revisionist. The Holacost never happened, Oklahoma City was a plot by the government. The last I saw of that poll 60% would either stay home, vote 3rd party, or what ever choices were left.
That's what I saw on O'Reilly last night. And the men are right for very practical reasons. Bush should have dropped his call for a guest worker program for at least one year.
"Bush is to blame for 50 years of neglect on our borders and if he doesn't solve the problem in this speech tonight, it's time to impeach him.
You mean he's not? And here all along I thought life was just like a movie/TV show where all problems are solved in one hour, and the hero is 100% simon pure.
DARN!
Man, have I been trying - and even trying harder lately - to do this. But I still get attacked right and left by certain people here. I thought my posts were reasonable this morning, check my recent posting history, but I got jumped on. I think that people on both sides of this issue need to try to be a bit more reasonable in debating this.
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