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Full Text, Bush Speech.
Instapundit ^ | May 15, 2006 | GWB

Posted on 05/15/2006 5:14:48 PM PDT by Leisler

FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, here's the full text of Bush's speech. Click "read more" to see it.

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At 8:01:30 P.M. EDT

Monday, May 15, 2006

THE PRESIDENT DELIVERS AN ADDRESS TO THE NATION

As Prepared for Delivery

Good evening. I have asked for a few minutes of your time to discuss a matter of national importance – the reform of America’s immigration system.

The issue of immigration stirs intense emotions – and in recent weeks, Americans have seen those emotions on display. On the streets of major cities, crowds have rallied in support of those in our country illegally. At our southern border, others have organized to stop illegal immigrants from coming in. Across the country, Americans are trying to reconcile these contrasting images. And in Washington, the debate over immigration reform has reached a time of decision. Tonight, I will make it clear where I stand, and where I want to lead our country on this vital issue.

We must begin by recognizing the problems with our immigration system. For decades, the United States has not been in complete control of its borders. As a result, many who want to work in our economy have been able to sneak across our border – and millions have stayed.

Once here, illegal immigrants live in the shadows of our society. Many use forged documents to get jobs, and that makes it difficult for employers to verify that the workers they hire are legal. Illegal immigration puts pressure on public schools and hospitals ... strains state and local budgets ... and brings crime to our communities. These are real problems, yet we must remember that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are decent people who work hard, support their families, practice their faith, and lead responsible lives. They are a part of American life – but they are beyond the reach and protection of American law.

We are a Nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We are also a Nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals – America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly, and fair. So I support comprehensive immigration reform that will accomplish five clear objectives.

First, the United States must secure its borders. This is a basic responsibility of a sovereign Nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security. Our objective is straightforward: The border should be open to trade and lawful immigration – and shut to illegal immigrants, as well as criminals, drug dealers, and terrorists.

I was the governor of a state that has a twelve-hundred mile border with Mexico. So I know how difficult it is to enforce the border, and how important it is. Since I became President, we have increased funding for border security by 66 percent, and expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents. The men and women of our Border Patrol are doing a fine job in difficult circumstances – and over the past five years, we have apprehended and sent home about six million people entering America illegally.

Despite this progress, we do not yet have full control of the border, and I am determined to change that. Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border. By the end of 2008, we will increase the number of Border Patrol officers by an additional 6,000. When these new agents are deployed, we will have more than doubled the size of the Border Patrol during my Presidency.

At the same time, we are launching the most technologically advanced border security initiative in American history. We will construct high-tech fences in urban corridors, and build new patrol roads and barriers in rural areas. We will employ motion sensors … infrared cameras … and unmanned aerial vehicles to prevent illegal crossings. America has the best technology in the world – and we will ensure that the Border Patrol has the technology they need to do their job and secure our border.

Training thousands of new Border Patrol agents and bringing the most advanced technology to the border will take time. Yet the need to secure our border is urgent. So I am announcing several immediate steps to strengthen border enforcement during this period of transition:

One way to help during this transition is to use the National Guard. So in coordination with governors, up to 6,000 Guard members will be deployed to our southern border. The Border Patrol will remain in the lead. The Guard will assist the Border Patrol by operating surveillance systems … analyzing intelligence … installing fences and vehicle barriers … building patrol roads … and providing training. Guard units will not be involved in direct law enforcement activities – that duty will be done by the Border Patrol. This initial commitment of Guard members would last for a period of one year. After that, the number of Guard forces will be reduced as new Border Patrol agents and new technologies come online. It is important for Americans to know that we have enough Guard forces to win the war on terror, respond to natural disasters, and help secure our border.

The United States is not going to militarize the southern border. Mexico is our neighbor, and our friend. We will continue to work cooperatively to improve security on both sides of the border ... to confront common problems like drug trafficking and crime ... and to reduce illegal immigration.

Another way to help during this period of transition is through state and local law enforcement in our border communities. So we will increase federal funding for state and local authorities assisting the Border Patrol on targeted enforcement missions. And we will give state and local authorities the specialized training they need to help federal officers apprehend and detain illegal immigrants. State and local law enforcement officials are an important resource – and they are part of our strategy to secure our border communities.

The steps I have outlined will improve our ability to catch people entering our country illegally. At the same time, we must ensure that every illegal immigrant we catch crossing our southern border is returned home. More than 85 percent of the illegal immigrants we catch crossing the southern border are Mexicans, and most are sent back home within 24 hours. But when we catch illegal immigrants from other countries, it is not as easy to send them home. For many years, the government did not have enough space in our detention facilities to hold them while the legal process unfolded. So most were released back into our society and asked to return for a court date. When the date arrived, the vast majority did not show up. This practice, called “catch and release,” is unacceptable – and we will end it.

We are taking several important steps to meet this goal. We have expanded the number of beds in our detention facilities, and we will continue to add more. We have expedited the legal process to cut the average deportation time. And we are making it clear to foreign governments that they must accept back their citizens who violate our immigration laws. As a result of these actions, we have ended “catch and release” for illegal immigrants from some countries. And I will ask Congress for additional funding and legal authority, so we can end “catch and release” at the southern border once and for all. When people know that they will be caught and sent home if they enter our country illegally, they will be less likely to try to sneak in.

Second, to secure our border, we must create a temporary worker program. The reality is that there are many people on the other side of our border who will do anything to come to America to work and build a better life. They walk across miles of desert in the summer heat, or hide in the back of 18-wheelers to reach our country. This creates enormous pressure on our border that walls and patrols alone will not stop. To secure the border effectively, we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across.

Therefore, I support a temporary worker program that would create a legal path for foreign workers to enter our country in an orderly way, for a limited period of time. This program would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers for jobs Americans are not doing. Every worker who applies for the program would be required to pass criminal background checks. And temporary workers must return to their home country at the conclusion of their stay.

A temporary worker program would meet the needs of our economy, and it would give honest immigrants a way to provide for their families while respecting the law. A temporary worker program would reduce the appeal of human smugglers – and make it less likely that people would risk their lives to cross the border. It would ease the financial burden on state and local governments, by replacing illegal workers with lawful taxpayers. And above all, a temporary worker program would add to our security by making certain we know who is in our country and why they are here.

Third, we need to hold employers to account for the workers they hire. It is against the law to hire someone who is in this country illegally. Yet businesses often cannot verify the legal status of their employees, because of the widespread problem of document fraud. Therefore, comprehensive immigration reform must include a better system for verifying documents and work eligibility. A key part of that system should be a new identification card for every legal foreign worker. This card should use biometric technology, such as digital fingerprints, to make it tamper-proof. A tamper-proof card would help us enforce the law – and leave employers with no excuse for violating it. And by making it harder for illegal immigrants to find work in our country, we would discourage people from crossing the border illegally in the first place.

Fourth, we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully – and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration.

Some in this country argue that the solution is to deport every illegal immigrant – and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border. There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program of mass deportation. That middle ground recognizes that there are differences between an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently – and someone who has worked here for many years, and has a home, a family, and an otherwise clean record. I believe that illegal immigrants who have roots in our country and want to stay should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law … to pay their taxes … to learn English … and to work in a job for a number of years. People who meet these conditions should be able to apply for citizenship – but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law. What I have just described is not amnesty – it is a way for those who have broken the law to pay their debt to society, and demonstrate the character that makes a good citizen.

Fifth, we must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one Nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language. English is also the key to unlocking the opportunity of America. English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a grocery … from cleaning offices to running offices … from a life of low-paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own. When immigrants assimilate and advance in our society, they realize their dreams ... they renew our spirit ... and they add to the unity of America.

Tonight, I want to speak directly to Members of the House and the Senate: An immigration reform bill needs to be comprehensive, because all elements of this problem must be addressed together – or none of them will be solved at all. The House has passed an immigration bill. The Senate should act by the end of this month – so we can work out the differences between the two bills, and Congress can pass a comprehensive bill for me to sign into law.

America needs to conduct this debate on immigration in a reasoned and respectful tone. Feelings run deep on this issue – and as we work it out, all of us need to keep some things in mind. We cannot build a unified country by inciting people to anger, or playing on anyone’s fears, or exploiting the issue of immigration for political gain. We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say.

I know many of you listening tonight have a parent or a grandparent who came here from another country with dreams of a better life. You know what freedom meant to them, and you know that America is a more hopeful country because of their hard work and sacrifice. As President, I have had the opportunity to meet people of many backgrounds, and hear what America means to them. On a visit to Bethesda Naval Hospital, Laura and I met a wounded Marine named Guadalupe Denogean. Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean came to the United States from Mexico when he was a boy. He spent his summers picking crops with his family, and then he volunteered for the United States Marine Corps as soon as he was able. During the liberation of Iraq, Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean was seriously injured. When asked if he had any requests, he made two – a promotion for the corporal who helped rescue him … and the chance to become an American citizen. And when this brave Marine raised his right hand, and swore an oath to become a citizen of the country he had defended for more than 26 years, I was honored to stand at his side.

We will always be proud to welcome people like Guadalupe Denogean as fellow Americans. Our new immigrants are just what they have always been – people willing to risk everything for the dream of freedom. And America remains what she has always been – the great hope on the horizon … an open door to the future … a blessed and promised land. We honor the heritage of all who come here, no matter where they are from, because we trust in our country’s genius for making us all Americans – one Nation under God. Thank you, and good night.

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To: Gorobei
"First off, don't bother replying if you are going to selectively snip, please. It is insulting."

Uh, "Newbie", you might want to check how long each of us has been a member of the forum. It is common practice to select only the portion of a post that the person is replying to. There's nothing "insulting" about it.

"Second, that is indeeed cost prohibitive. Rounding up the ones that are here now and sending em back is money thrown down the drain. Put that money into a border fence and a vastly increased Border Patrol, and take away the aforementioned spigot of benefits that illegals get, and that is a much more effective way to address this."

No, it is NOT "cost prohibitive. The number I posted prove it. And "building a fence" WTIHOUT that increased deportation effort will be only marginally effective. The "spigot of benefits" is irrelevant.

341 posted on 05/16/2006 6:46:37 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Leisler
Presidente Jorge Boosh: "......So in coordination with governors, up to 6,000 Guard members will be deployed to our southern border........"

Does "up to" mean 6,000?

Does "up to" mean 60?

Does "up to" mean 6?


342 posted on 05/16/2006 6:51:08 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: PhilDragoo
"..We will construct high-tech fences in urban corridors, and build new patrol roads and barriers in rural areas. We will employ motion sensors infrared cameras and unmanned aerial vehicles to prevent illegal crossings..."

The trouble with the speech is that the above can mean anything from a significant barrier to small changes. I expect we will get played on all this until the elections.

343 posted on 05/16/2006 7:03:28 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Washi
You're right. It's much harder to find people living in a fixed location, going to the same job every day, than it is to find people on their guard trying to sneak across miles of open border.

Genius, try reading what I wrote instead of what you'd like to see. I didn't say it was harder, I said it was different. And it is. One is politically acceptable and the other is not (for politicians seeking the hispanic vote). Don't look for enemies where there aren't any.
344 posted on 05/16/2006 7:10:39 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: ZULU
We need a National I.D. card

Absolutely not.

345 posted on 05/16/2006 7:12:43 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: bray
"Where is this amnesty? He said they will have to wait in line BEHIND those who have applied legally?? Please explain how that is amnesty??"

Because they won't be required to go back to their home country, and WAIT THERE until their turn in line comes up, while the LEGITIMATE applicants for legal citizenship are doing their waiting outside the borders of the US.

Bush's plan IS an amnesty. Oh, it talks about "fines", but that's just a flimsy cover story. The "fine" will probably be $500.00.

346 posted on 05/16/2006 7:27:24 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Leisler
I believe that illegal immigrants who have roots in our country and want to stay should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law... to pay their taxes... to learn English... and to work in a job for a number of years.

I'm waiting for the suggestion that illegal EMPLOYERS should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law... to pay their Social Security and Workers' Comp... to learn to hire out of the legitimate market... to keep themselves in compliance for a number of years.

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347 posted on 05/16/2006 7:27:41 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: steve-b

I was intially opposed to an National I.D. card and from a philosophical perspective I still have reservations about it.

However, the only way employers can be expected to tell the difference between an illegal invader and an American citizen or somebody with a work visa is with an identification card.

The realities of the magnitude of the present invasion are so great that this step must be taken - evevn if only for the present until all or most illegals are removed and an effective border defense erected.

A social security card is almost a national i.d. card but can be too easily counterfited. What we need is something like dollar currency prepared by the U.S. printing office with draconian penalties for attempts to replicate it.


348 posted on 05/16/2006 8:01:53 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
However, the only way employers can be expected to tell the difference between an illegal invader and an American citizen or somebody with a work visa is with an identification card.

Nonsense. That's like saying that the only way police can be expected to tell the difference between law-abiding citizens and crooks is for the former to carry an official I Am Not A Crook card (with an engraved holographic seal depicting Richard Nixon, perhaps).

The fact of the matter is simply enforcing the law against the employers who are knowingly violating it or who willfully look the other way would suffice to dry up demand for illegal alien labor to the point where the vast majority of them would go home.

this step must be taken - evevn if only for the present

If you really believe that the government can be trusted to roll back such a power grab once the "temporary crisis" has passed, I suggest that you will your body to the Smithsonian Institution for display as a unique specimen.

349 posted on 05/16/2006 8:17:47 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: RetSignman

I agree, half of this thread is like listening to the Democratic rebuttal.



350 posted on 05/16/2006 8:25:35 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: newguy357
I didn't say it was harder, I said it was different. And it is. One is politically acceptable and the other is not (for politicians seeking the hispanic vote).

Yes, I know it is "different."

But it is being dishonestly portrayed it as a logistics problem by President Bush and many here on FR, as opposed to a political problem.

By that standard (politically acceptable vs. not politically acceptable) what can, or will ever be done? I am not beholden to illegal hispanic votes. I don't benefit financialy from the creation of an illegal class of "sub-citizens." Illegal immigration is a net-negative for me and most other American citizens whom the President and the rest of the government are supposed to represent.

Pretty words and half-measures from the President will only fool the politically-ignorant voters and will do nothing to solve the problem.

351 posted on 05/16/2006 8:38:23 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Leisler
I have asked for a few minutes of your time

W has to beg the MSM for primetime coverage. Sickening isn't it?

The issue of immigration stirs intense emotions – and in recent weeks, Americans have seen those emotions on display

No Mr. President, it is the issue of ILLEGAL immigration that stirs such emotions. I offer that W could be more respected in his position if it was more precise,thus leaving out opposition of this type. He does this to himself when he spins in this way. Not unlike "jobs Americans won't do" foolishness!

On the streets of major cities, crowds have rallied in support of those in our country illegally. At our southern border, others have organized to stop illegal immigrants from coming in. Across the country, Americans are trying to reconcile these contrasting images

In this tidbit it appears to me that W poses the minutemen as the polar opposite of those marching in the streets supporting the illegals. I offer that this is hardly the case. He damages his own credability when he does things like this.

And in Washington, the debate over immigration reform has reached a time of decision. Tonight, I will make it clear where I stand, and where I want to lead our country on this vital issue

This appears to be a "lay the cards on the table" moment. I commend W for making this call because he is 100% right on that one. Though i personally do not agree with this speech in its entirety, I do think W kept true to his stance showing that he will state his positions and he will say what he is going to do and then he will stand by that and do it. Very honorable on that note.

For decades, the United States has not been in complete control of its borders.

Stark admission, especially in a time of global conflict (read: world war four imho). I would offer that this truth was posed as a form of bait. Another "bring em on" moment. I like to see this because it is speaking truth in combination with strategy in the WOT.

Once here, illegal immigrants live in the shadows of our society.

Most criminals do, Mr. President.

Many use forged documents to get jobs, and that makes it difficult for employers to verify that the workers they hire are legal. Illegal immigration puts pressure on public schools and hospitals ... strains state and local budgets ... and brings crime to our communities.

All true, and then the "BUT" that seems to mean...discount all this and look at this instead...

These are real problems, yet we must remember that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are decent people who work hard, support their families, practice their faith, and lead responsible lives. They are a part of American life – but they are beyond the reach and protection of American law.

As for beyond the reach, We can reach globally to bring terrorists to justice by enforcing the law so why can we not reach to and within our own borders? I find this quite spinful and worthy of legit criticism.

We are a Nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws

Wait a second now, didn't he just say that they were beyond the reach of our law? I find this to be a little ooooopsie. But it could be seen as saying we are due for laws to be changed in order that we may enforce the rule of law better than we are today. I do not quite know which way to think about this, I do believe that was done intentionally to leave both basic sides wondering what exactly he meant on this particular point.

We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly, and fair.

Bold prediction , I sure hope he delivers. I must say that I sure wish he had said clearly that this is for AMERICANS to decide as a policy issue and not for the UN or any other nation. After all this is our nation and we the people are supposed to have the power to decide who enters our nation and what they are allowed to do while they are here. Not to mention when they are to be sent home.

First, the United States must secure its borders. This is a basic responsibility of a sovereign Nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security. Our objective is straightforward: The border should be open to trade and lawful immigration – and shut to illegal immigrants, as well as criminals, drug dealers, and terrorists.

Well said and it is about time it is said by a President in no uncertain terms. "shut to illegal immigrants: is a bold statement that will piss off alot of people inside this nation and out. I do take issue with this statement compared to "reducing illegal immigration: as he says later on in this speech. Those two seem not to match imho. I must say that on its face I agree with this statement 100%. I just hope he really means it as it was said here.

and over the past five years, we have apprehended and sent home about six million people entering America illegally.

This statement here directly contradicts the idea that we cannot deport (or force self deportation)11 million (or more) illegal aliens. The fact that he (and other politicians) make the claim that we cannot mass deport shows me a bit of double speak. We can and should deport illegals along with putting in place policy in the workplace and social programs that force self deportation. No, we cannot do it in two weeks or two months or two years, but indeed this very comment shows that we indeed Can if the will is there in leadership to do it.

Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border.

To me, this was the best statement in this speech. He directly, in no uncertain terms, placed the ball of action in the court of the congress ( where ,for the most part, it always has been regardless). Congress has made so many laws that conflict with each other that even presidential direction has become lacking in ability to enforce those very laws. I offer that has been done by PC politicians on purpose and it is time for all people to see that action for what it has always been. A way to cloud the issue soas not to bring about a solid solution, thus retaining issues to pander votes.

When these new agents are deployed, we will have more than doubled the size of the Border Patrol during my Presidency

A great start, limited by congress in the $$$ department. I must say though that it is kind of a talking point because doubling is great unless of course what is actually needed is multiplying by the power of five....or more the number border patrol officers with enforcement powers.

At the same time, we are launching the most technologically advanced border security initiative in American history. We will construct high-tech fences in urban corridors, and build new patrol roads and barriers in rural areas. We will employ motion sensors … infrared cameras … and unmanned aerial vehicles to prevent illegal crossings. America has the best technology in the world – and we will ensure that the Border Patrol has the technology they need to do their job and secure our border.

All valid parts of the solution I am glad he stated this. Congress needs to listen. More needs done in addition to these ideas. Hopefully when these are in place the "more" will be self evident and undeniable.

One way to help during this transition is to use the National Guard. So in coordination with governors, up to 6,000 Guard members will be deployed to our southern border. The Border Patrol will remain in the lead. The Guard will assist the Border Patrol by operating surveillance systems … analyzing intelligence … installing fences and vehicle barriers … building patrol roads … and providing training.

Valid use of Border patrol but I think it sells them short in their ability. I also ask how is it they can train the border patrol but they cannot take part in enforcment action?? This strikes me as a deliberate attempt to limit their effectiveness. I suppose the "traiing" could apply to the use of new technologies that will be deployed. It makes more sense applying this angle but it sure does seem a bit ambiguous to me.

This initial commitment of Guard members would last for a period of one year.

Bill CLinton said roughly the same thing about Kosovo. I am encouraged by this statement because I think it means the very same thing now that it did then. We would like this to last one year (or until Christmas) but only time will tell if that is possible.

It is important for Americans to know that we have enough Guard forces to win the war on terror, respond to natural disasters, and help secure our border.

I think this comment was directed at the John Murtha, Nancy Pelosi types, not to mention white house press corps types. I think this was a direct statement telling them to SHUT UP about the "stretched too thin" foolishness. I was happy to hear him say this so bluntly. Thanks W.

The United States is not going to militarize the southern border. Mexico is our neighbor, and our friend. We will continue to work cooperatively to improve security on both sides of the border ... to confront common problems like drug trafficking and crime ... and to reduce illegal immigration.

Why not? Mexico has its military operating on our common border. On BOTH sides of it in fact! We can be as cooperative as we can be and if Mexico is not cooperative then nothing can change. I offer this was an appeasing statment meant for Mexico and its government, along with illegals here today. Notice this is the "reduce illegal immigration" comment I talked about earlier. Another oooopsie, IMHO.

Another way to help during this period of transition is through state and local law enforcement in our border communities.

AWESOME W, Thanks for saying it. Sanctuary cities beware, that time is almost over. I would offer that a certain judge with an afinity for pink socks and unders may have influenced this statement. I just thope this applies to the 'border state' of Illinois as well. After all we are fourth on the list of illegal population......

More than 85 percent of the illegal immigrants we catch crossing the southern border are Mexicans, and most are sent back home within 24 hours

Maybe I am ablivious to reality, but I sure do not see where this can be accurate. Catch and release just seems to show this not to be true.

For many years, the government did not have enough space in our detention facilities to hold them while the legal process unfolded.

Without being overtly critical of the congress, W states clearly that one of the main reasons for the problems today is due to congress passing laws that complicate a relativly easy situation. Complication of the process accompliches what some want....keeping illegals here. This is the common practice in the Senate and I wish W would have been more blunt about this point. He did make it I just wonder if enough people will catch the meaning of this statement.

And we are making it clear to foreign governments that they must accept back their citizens who violate our immigration laws

This is true and I wish W had been a little more specific here. Recently we pretty much told the UN and nations to piss off. SCOTUS ruled that we no longer need to gain permission from a foreign country in order to return to them their own citizens that are in violation of our immigration law. Props to W for saying this, but again I wonder if people really understand what he meant by what he said. Indeed, for a long time we could not send people to their home countries because thier home countries would not allow us to do so. I think if people knew this, they would be a bit more fired up about it. Great that W said this, I just wish he could have explained it a bit more in depth.

To secure the border effectively, we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across.

This statement is true but not in the context it is used. This amounts to admitting the we cannot stop the pressure by the sheer number of folks "willing to do anything for a better life". If we were to do what Mexico does when it comes to their immigration laws ,especially on their souther border, indeed, the flow would trickle rather than flood like the chocolate city!

I support a temporary worker program that would create a legal path for foreign workers to enter our country in an orderly way, for a limited period of time. This program would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers for jobs Americans are not doing. Every worker who applies for the program would be required to pass criminal background checks. And temporary workers must return to their home country at the conclusion of their stay.

While I agree with what was said and think it is totally valid, I disagree that this has to be part of the enforcment side. I think that this is leiu of enforcement to the tune of appeasement. I think most people would agree that this would be good policy after the border security is dealt with. I offer this is nothing more than a reform of the VISA program and should be done after security issues are ,for the most part, resolved thru enforcement at the border. Plug the whole then start bailing...so to speak.

And above all, a temporary worker program would add to our security by making certain we know who is in our country and why they are here.

While I agree with this statement, it cannot do as it claims unless border enforcement is already in play.

A key part of that system should be a new identification card for every legal foreign worker.

OK I agree with that. I support that for all people in this country, Americans and foreigners alike. I think something was left out of this part. I think he is referring to an ID issued by Mexico. Yes, the METRICULA card. I oppose this 100%. THe ID he is speaking of has to be issued by US! I do not think he meant it that way. I wish he would have made that clear. Sure seems to me that he meant the mexican issued metricula and I oppose that as much as I think most Americans would.

It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border.

I offer that this is a matter of persepective. Seems to me in this very speech he said that 6 million were already "rounded up and deported". Indeed they should be sent home and come thru the process in the legal way. That being GET IN LINE like everyone else in your home nation and wait for it to be your turn.

That middle ground recognizes that there are differences between an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently – and someone who has worked here for many years, and has a home, a family, and an otherwise clean record.

W threw up a brick with this one. The only difference between the two is TIME. Lack of action by our government cannot be excused by saying they have been here a long time so we cannot act now. These folks know they are here illegally and they also know they came here illegally. They made that choice and if they lose things...TOUGH!! That is the chance they took.

The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans

Damn Straight! Keep in mind that you cannot help someone that does not wish to help themselves. Spanish all over everywhere is not helping. It is harming. Turn up the heat and force them to deal with daily life here in English and they far better assimilate.

English is also the key to unlocking the opportunity of America. English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a grocery … from cleaning offices to running offices … from a life of low-paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own.

Is this about "doing jobs Americans won't do" or is this about increasing the footprint of latino population. This strikes me as trying to have it both ways and I was disappointed with this statement. Which is it Mr. President?

Tonight, I want to speak directly to Members of the House and the Senate: An immigration reform bill needs to be comprehensive, because all elements of this problem must be addressed together – or none of them will be solved at all. The House has passed an immigration bill. The Senate should act by the end of this month – so we can work out the differences between the two bills, and Congress can pass a comprehensive bill for me to sign into law.

Another call on congress, Great Job Mr. President. I must say that I hear alot about forming law but where is the statement something like this..... SO WE CAN GET TO THE BUSINESS OF ENFORCEMENT???? Seems left out of that leadership statement.

The story he told about a soldier that wished to become a citizen was very touching. This is an honorable way to earn such a thing. I would offer that would go to Nuclear family members along with a soldier. One thing though, MS 13 TYPES MUST NOT BE FORGOTTEN about in this discussion.

We honor the heritage of all who come here, no matter where they are from,

Yes we do and it is time that sentiment is returned by those that seek to come here. They must honor our heritiage or they can just stay home!

I was bummed that I heard nothing of 'anchor babies'. I was also disappointed that enforcement areas of this speech seemed to me to be a bit docile. I think that side of it is being marginalized to appease the Mexican government and the latino voter ( along with future latino voters). All in all I think the president made a decent speech. I liked the call on congress to act. That is what should be said right now. W makes some good points but he also made some that are suspect. I have tried to produce a fair assessment of his speech from the pro and con side in a respectful way. I know it was kind of long, but thanks for reading.
352 posted on 05/16/2006 8:50:42 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Max_Parrish
Bush is a little man - a small minded and crabbed thinker who does not even know when he is lieing and dribbling utterly vapid rhetoric...he thinks he said something tonight.

True! Your post was excellent, but you missed one major point. Bush is not telling the truth when he says illegal aliens will have to wait at the back of the line. They get to wait in the States while those trying to immigrate here legally will still be waiting for 6 to 25 years overseas. Furthermore, giving amnesty to 12 to 20 million illegal aliens is going to delay the processing of future immigrants trying to come here legally for at least 25 to 50 years. How can the man live with that lie?

That said, I am a Republican! I refuse to leave the party and will continue to fight for conservative and family values within it. George W. Bush left the Republican Party, I did not.
353 posted on 05/16/2006 9:50:51 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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354 posted on 05/16/2006 9:51:31 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Chena
I heard AMNESTY, AMNESTY, AMNESTY. I did too.

Perhaps this will help you both. ;)

Let's see, Kris Kobach, was head of immigration in the Justice Department, and he heard Amnesty, Amnesty, Amnesty too. Kobach is one of the top legal scholars in the nation. Where does that put you?
355 posted on 05/16/2006 9:54:14 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Max_Parrish
Bush is a little man - a small minded and crabbed thinker who does not even know when he is lieing and dribbling utterly vapid rhetoric...he thinks he said something tonight.

Pathetic.

Bump

356 posted on 05/16/2006 9:56:06 AM PDT by RodgerD
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To: TexasPatriot8
Yeah, get to stay if they pay taxes, pay the fines, and have no criminal records, which a significant number of illegals in the country have. So it's hardly a cake walk. Read the stats on illegals and you'll see that.

You have NO understanding of the BCIS. Currently there are 4 million people in line waiting to immigrate here legally. Each examiner has 4 minutes per file to approve or disapprove. Add 12 to 20 million illegal aliens to the 4 million, and see how through each file will be examined.
357 posted on 05/16/2006 9:58:03 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: no dems
What did you people want from him? Did you want him to announce that we are going to nuke Mexico? I thought he did a doggone good job on an issue that is a lose-lose situation for him.

My stepdaughter has been waiting since August 2002 to come here legally. She is in the First Family Priority as the daughter of a citizen. In another 4 or 5 years she might make it here. Many family members take 25 years to get here, and Bush flat lied, when he said the illegals will have to get in line. They wait in line in the States, which is far better than waiting overseas. BTW, my stepdaugher is not allowed to visit us in the States, but the illegal aliens get to live here.
358 posted on 05/16/2006 10:09:59 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: goldstategop
And where's the wall along the southern border

Ask the Senate, the House passed legislation for a 700 mile fence.

359 posted on 05/16/2006 10:12:21 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: steve-b

"Nonsense. That's like saying that the only way police can be expected to tell the difference between law-abiding citizens and crooks is for the former to carry an official I Am Not A Crook card (with an engraved holographic seal depicting Richard Nixon, perhaps)."

If you can tell me how an employer can be expected to distinguish between an American citizen with a foreign accent and poor command of English, and some illegal alien who has perfect command of English and dresses and acts like an American, I'll agree with you.


360 posted on 05/16/2006 10:25:37 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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