[TexasPatriot8]

And they think they're so clever. :) The bottom line is, real reasoned conservatives who are genuinely socially and fiscally conservative and support the conservative agenda and want real border security and want illegals deported, would react to this speach Bush gave with the venom that some here have spewed in response to Bush tonight. When my wife told me to come sit down because Bush was giving a border speach I rolled my eyes and thought "Oh great, more lots of nothing double speak from the guy who can't use his foreign policy spin on domestic issues, and then I actually sat down and shut up (which some here could stand to do with someone is talking) and actually listened to the man, and time after time he said things that I and all other REAL conservatives have said should be done for years. I was surprised. Stunned actually.

I think the Border Control/Mexican Consulate scandal of them reporting to Mexico the size and disposition of the Minutemen made a big part of this change. But for so many here to be so bent out of shape, I have to suspect that they are not real conservatives. Either that, or they never have liked Bush and even when he does something right they blast him, which I don't understand either. When he does something wrong, I'm all for calling him on it, but when he does something right, it's stupid to not give him credit. This speach was a good start on something right regarding the border. The big tell is the fact that democrats don't support ANY of the things Bush suggested tonight. Not a one. So for someone to purport to be a conservative and blast Bush for what he said tonight, well. It isn't logical.

[defenderSD]

I think a lot of people go to the internet mainly to vent frustration about their lives and to bash somebody. They used to bash Democrats, then some got bored with that and switched to bashing Republicans on a conservative website. Some are not real conservatives and some are not very thoughtful people. They bash first and think later, if at all.