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Good points, however not all of us Base Jumpers feel that way. As a newbie, I get the feeling it is blasphemy to even be disgruntled about the southern border around here..... Much less criticize the virtual-amnesty proposal

I feel for GW, he's caught between a rock and a hard place.......or an open border and an immigration issue to be more specific

Time to holster the pitchforks IMO

I don't know. I'm as conservative as they come. On non-political boards when politics come up I'm called a fanatic Christian zealot, etc so on. And I've been ripping Bush six ways from Sunday on his lack of any kind of border policy, yet I voted for him both times and if he was the Republican candidate again, I'd vote for him again because he's better than any democrat that would get the nomination. I am pleased with this speach and it's a good starting point for REAL border security. The journey of 1000 miles starts with one step and this is a good first step if this speach is brought to fruition.

Anyone who attacks someone who wants REAL border security and wants to kick out every stinking illegal, frankly, they can kiss mine. But at the same time, I'm not going to rip into Bush because he didn't go as far as I'd of gone, which would be to put a few Army divisions on the border, build a wall, lock up all illegals in tent jails for a few weeks before deportation like around Phoenix, and tell Fox that if he didn't get his people under control, we would have a situation. Bush didn't go that far, but he certainly didn't say anything I can disagree with. I heard the speach live, then read it too. I'm flabbergasted by the people here who claim to be "conservatives" yet rip Bush and tear this speach apart. I have to say, they must be the kind of people people who, like my Dad always says, would b***h if you hung them with a new rope. That's my take.