[bnelson44]

Time FReepers quit wining, and started asking "how can we help"!

[Exit148]

So what about the fences?

[SelectiveJNJ]

To sum it up - "We are not going to change anything...just going to move 6000 national guard troops to the border to sit there and do nothing."

[citizen]

Well there we have it.

I expect the NG to get into "full" deployment about the 1st of October, just in time for photo op deployments, lots of dog & pony news clips.

I'm skeptical but we shall see what transpires. If they pass Hagel/Martinez & get it past the conference comittee, we're dead as a soverign nation.

I'd say the word down south will be "Get in NOW!"

I refuse to be upset, it's 24 night.

[concerned about politics]

If he's saying he's going to seal the border as tight as area 51, I'll go along with it.
The American government threatens to shoot American citizens for crossing their boarder!

[TomGuy]

Even Brit's panel is mostly defeatest ---- there are too many of them here so we can't do anything about it.

[Al Qaeda is taking note -- that's how they can take over eventually, too.]

[Phsstpok]

Jim, I gotta say that the "whack a troll" line is one of the great ones ever posted.

I have a feeling THAT line will inspire an entirely new photo-shop tradition to rival the viking kitties!

[Danae]

Well, I am sure I have missed at least a couple zots... So, IATZ just in case...

Having listened to the speech, I have to say that I like what I hear. I can swallow a limited "Amnesty" program if the Borders are sealed. I hope sincerely that the NG can really effect some change. I am glad that he has laid oaut 1.2.3.4.5. what they are going to do. Let's see what happens.

[HoosierHawk]

Why do the commentators continually refer to the conservative base who want the borders secure?

Shouldn't everyone?

[jackieaxe]

You got to be kidding, now the Democrats get to offer an opposing view? By Senator Turbin? This woiuld be funny if it weren't so sad.

[Lunatic Fringe]

I gotta think if Lou Dobbs is opposed to this plan and calls it "amnesty" then it might not be so bad for the country!

[Earthdweller]

"It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts. Jim"

LOL...how can I not be in a good mood after that .

[Kakaze]

I'd say nothing much has changed, the guard deployment, I'm going to have to see how it pans out but it sounds light to me

The only thing we will really gain from all this mess is a National ID card, it will never play as "only for guest workers".

It will become a right to work card issued to us all, biometric data, medical records, and anything else trackable.

Thats what I saw tonight.

[Mercat]

20 times that he said illegal. That's more than one per minute. HE GETS IT!!!!

[diverteach]

One part of the speech REALLY caught me by surprise about the mexican marine in Walter Reed.

Do you mean to tell me that non-citizens are able to enlist and be expected to defend our country?

I was under the impression that you HAD to be a US citizen in order to serve in our armed forces.

This calls for the biggest WTF EVER.

[olde north church]

How many other folks groaned with the "guest worker" program. I'm pretty sick and tired of the "corporate welfare" paid with my taxes to emergency rooms, schools and other civic services. The thought process for the "War on Drugs" is to ignore the low-level dealers and focus on the kingpins. Well, how about such illegal immigrant "dealers" as Tyson Chicken?

[MichiganConservative]

Did he say anything about eliminating the welfare state and reforming the anchor-baby law? Yeah, I didn't think so.

[tobyhill]

Chris Matthews is knocking everything about President Bush so it must have been a great speech.

[VOA]

from the speech:
"English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a
grocery … from cleaning offices to running offices … from a life
of low-paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own.
When immigrants assimilate and advance in our society, they realize
their dreams ... they renew our spirit ... and they add to the unity of America."

So, once all the illegals have learned English and been made legitimate...
who will fill that pool of people that will do "Jobs That Americans
Won't Do"?

Hmmm...I guess that's when we'll be doing the next amnesty package.
Another 20 years from now.

[puppypusher]

I watched the Presidents speech this evening and found it to be totaly inadaquate to deter the criminal aliens that are coming into this country.6000 national guardsman are a bandaid on a cut artery.

He could have provided additional deterance by cutting of access to all social services in this country. He didn't do that.

He keeps pushing for this bogus jobs bill,so that criminal aliens can do jobs Americans won't do.

I could go on and on but its not worth it.The Presidents speech was a total disappointment.

The Republicans will lose the Next Election there is No doubt about it now.