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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: proud American in Canada
Many of them deeply admire the U.S. and want to be a part of it, legally.

The same can be said of many in China, India, Vietnam, Haiti, etc. We can't take them all in. There has to be limits

781 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: oceanview
National ID card is a joke right now. People who round up illegals to work for them know they are illegal. Do you think it's lack of a card that is an issue?

The work americans won't do is offensive BS. I remember back 25 years ago in Southern California. The construction workers were white, black, and american born latino in that order. They were well willing to do the damn work. They want things like social security, workman's comp and insurance though. That is why there are illegals doing it now. This fallacy of jobs americans won't do is such BS. It's jobs Americans won't do for well under the standard wage.

We as Americans don't expect to work a job, living 12 males in a 1 bedroom apartment. We are soft that way. This is a freaking joke. Our government has let us down.

782 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:16 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: bnelson44

"Time FReepers quit wining, and started asking "how can we help"! "

FReepers do something? Action to back up their words?

You ask too much!


783 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:20 PM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I've been rocked.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Please Please let us all know where you got all those percentages from.
As I for one, will post it on as many places as I can to get the real Truth out.
Thank You


784 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:20 PM PDT by Fast5 (That Just Ain't Rite.)
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To: Dane

What kind of hyperbole are you talking about? Why are you so unwilling to discuss facts, rather than rant? For example, I'm still waiting to hear if you distinguish between legal immigrants and illegal aliens.


785 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:28 PM PDT by rudy45
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To: wardaddy

I'm so disappointed I could cry.


786 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:33 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: devane617; Jim Robinson

Jim, I gotta say that the "whack a troll" line is one of the great ones ever posted.

I have a feeling THAT line will inspire an entirely new photo-shop tradition to rival the viking kitties!


787 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:34 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: devane617

Well, I am sure I have missed at least a couple zots... So, IATZ just in case...

Having listened to the speech, I have to say that I like what I hear. I can swallow a limited "Amnesty" program if the Borders are sealed. I hope sincerely that the NG can really effect some change. I am glad that he has laid oaut 1.2.3.4.5. what they are going to do. Let's see what happens.


788 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:34 PM PDT by Danae (God bless ya Tony! Thank you!)
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To: KavMan

---Man, Most of you are freaking crazy, If he comes down too hard like lots of you here want say hello to Hillary in 2008!!---

Hello Hillary!


789 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:36 PM PDT by claudiustg (Build a fence. They won't come.)
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To: pissant

"don't let the McCain Kennedy BS see the light of day"

Now i think you're sincere; but there are some border trolls on here to blame Bush for rejecting that mccain kennedy bs.


790 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:45 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: COUNTrecount
My personal two cents on this:

The more things change, the more they say the same.

792 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:47 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: catholicfreeper

Thank you catholicfreeper. Your words are right on the money.


793 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:48 PM PDT by zook
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To: Spiff

Was the Bracero program started in 1945 "amnesty" as well? Here's the White House factsheet just posted:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060515-7.html


794 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:49 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: RHINO369

"One nation Mecimerica under god"

This is America, buddy. Learn to speak Spanish.

And, oh yeah, God has been deported


795 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:51 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Quick! Press the Sarcasm button!)
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To: Severa
1) How long would it take to build a wall that would satisfy those who want a wall?

As long as it takes.

2) What do we do with the illegals in our country while this wall is being built?

Put 'em to work building the damn wall. Just make sure as the last brick is put in place, that they're on the OTHER side of the wall.

796 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:55 PM PDT by mhking ("I make my livin' on the evening news...")
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To: Junior_G

" He should have stopped after the first 7 minutes ..."

The first part was strong, the second part should have had a violin accompaniment.
What has happened to this White House ?
I am shocked and saddened at how soft and quite frankly, out of touch, they have become this second term.


797 posted on 05/15/2006 5:24:59 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: mnehrling

Hey I was in the Marines. If you serve our country in the armed services, get and honorable discharge, then you can become a citizen. This was in when I was in the Marines. This is the one rule I do not have a problem with...


798 posted on 05/15/2006 5:25:04 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: mtbopfuyn
"Reform? How about enforcing the laws already on the books?"

I have posted nothing on this thread about reforms of any sort, and posted nothing addressed to you.
799 posted on 05/15/2006 5:25:04 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: old_sage_says

He was just on MSNBC


800 posted on 05/15/2006 5:25:05 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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