Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617
Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.
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Jim
Maybe when the garbage lands in his backyard
>>>You can criticize me for wanting the borders closed when you take an honest look at the affect this is having on my State and States around me.
They just throw their cans and other trash in the water for the current to sweep down into the lake. I understand the same thing is happening on the rivers feeding the lakes above Phoenix as well. At this rate, soon our beautiful, previously clean, rivers and lakes will look like they belong in a third world nation.
Since I haven't said that, I must first be certain that you don't think I support that. I don't.
However, the Bible does support one instance that I know of in which a horde of illegal aliens invaded and overthrew a legitimate government.
That was when Joshua led the Children of Israel into the Promised Land and displaced the people currently living there.
There are also references in the bible to non-citizens being intentionally settled in a country not their own in order to provide a more docile population. I believe that both Assyria and Babylon followed that practice.
That is where the Samaritans came from. (Think: Parable of the Good Samaritan.)
Reality, my friend .. reality.
You are forgetting G-d's word through Jeremiah. Israel was told to stand down and take their punishment, but they refused the foreign subjugation and were subsequently disposessed of the land.
Ok.
Bush said he's not going to effectively control the border, and he's going to effectively grant an amnesty.
What do you do politically now?
That was with the Babylonian captivity, and you are correct. Israel had the chance to listen to God.
The invasion of Palestine by Joshua & the COI might also have been preceded by a period of time in which God gave those nations an opportunity to repent.
The Bible doesn't specifically say so, but it indicates it when God informs Abraham (?) that the sin of the Canaanites had not yet reached its fullness....and therefore, that He would not have the land dispossessed for another 400 years or so.
What I've been doing; continue to put pressure on my congressional representative and one of my two senators (since McCain is hopeless).
The great people like Scalia are few and generally impotent to represent any real change. That is why the RINO thing really irrates me. They do contribute something--it is better than no majority although it does make you wonder who is in the majority. Isn't this conservative thing as extremist and counter-productive as the left when it comes to party? Wonder who has the numbers in a conservative (excluding RINO's) and the left socialists comparison?
You were quoting the hell out of the Southern Poverty Law Center last week, for crying out loud.
I have heard it said that conservative make up about 40% of American voters. This is probably close. I suspect Liberals a bit less (35%) and the rest moderates.
Conservative can attract a majority for a large part of their agenda. National Security and Crime will usually garner majority support. Social issues like Gay Marriage and Abortion are more complicated. The majority support conservatives on this, but don't what the government meddling one way or the other in people's lives.
Unfortunately, to balance the budget, people want it but don't seem willing to gore their own ox. Our government has some many middle class subsidies benefits, that modest trimming can usually be grandstanded by the left, making change difficult, therefore spending is out of control.
I see you are fine with sacrificing every principle you have.
I'm not.
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Glad to hear it. So when the libs take over and we get REAL amnesty, more liberal federal justices, huge tax increases, defense cuts, more abortion on demand, gay marriage and capitulation in the War on Terror, at least you'll have your "principles".
Tell me, was Walter Mondale worth electing, because Ronald Reagan ended up granting amnesty in 1986? If you had it to do again, would you have elected Mondale?
You utter fool.
"What I've been doing; continue to put pressure on my congressional representative and one of my two senators (since McCain is hopeless)."
How?
Do you vote for McCain or the Democrat, or not vote?
McCain isn't running for four more years. He had no GOP opposition two years ago. I will never vote for a democrat, have never voted for a dem in my life, though, in his case, I may change my mind about that in four more years -- provided people are smart enough to keep him out of the Whitehouse in '08.
"You can criticize me for wanting the borders closed when you take an honest look at the affect this is having on my State and States around me."
Hear, hear. I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada. Huge impact here. People in the country club set are blind.
I couldn't belive Dingy Harry having the ba!!$ to stand up and say every time one of us stays in a hotel we should thank an illegal immigrant... did he lose what brain cells he has left last summer when he had his stroke?
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