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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: Peach
I stand corrected, only 2,255 so far, not counting this one.

I had to go check...lol
2,681 posted on 05/15/2006 9:40:03 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: Vicomte13

I'll die before Hillary or her ilk gets my vote. I'll not reward the republicans for screwing over my grandchildrens future just to give the dimocrats new voters because they aborted theirs. As it stands now, I'll probably vote CP.


2,682 posted on 05/15/2006 9:40:26 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: FreeReign

UMm try reading it again, the point is well made what Reagan wanted and what he compromised for. What he got was gutted by Kennedy.


2,683 posted on 05/15/2006 9:40:28 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: claudiustg
By contrast there are almost 40,000 officers in the NYPD alone.

And NYC is as safe as the Vatican.

2,684 posted on 05/15/2006 9:40:34 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: JeffAtlanta
Is there a link to sites are are acceptable/ not acceptable?

You have been here 2 years and posted almost exclusively about Illegal Immigrants and you didn't know that VDARE is not welcome here? Yeah right.

2,685 posted on 05/15/2006 9:40:50 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: wardaddy

Gillespie was on Fox today.

Sorry, I can't tell you what he said though your assessment is probably correct. The only words I hear when I see his face now are "sexist" and "elitist". Haven't forgiven him for that disgrace yet so I left the room before I broke the set.


2,686 posted on 05/15/2006 9:40:55 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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To: Texasforever
Nice try. The link you provided went to VDARE. It was not a mistake.

How desperate are you? I never said it was a mistake. I didn't know that vdare was not permitted and I had no reason to know.

Google "Bush hispanic vote" and see what you get.

From now on do your own research.

2,687 posted on 05/15/2006 9:41:17 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"In exchange, we give some people jobs, but get to tag them and make sure they leave at the end."

Make sure they leave at the end? Surely your not serious. Exactly how would you propose we would do this?


2,688 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:09 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Vicomte13
"Republican business interests see cheap, exploitable labor that has no legal protections or access to the courts. They have to throw some red meat to BorderBot conservatives, but the GOP leaders do NOT want to offend the Republican moneymen."

My family are part of the honest law abiding businessmen in America...they firmly disagree with you.

2,689 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:19 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: JeffAtlanta
I just pointed out that a rumor that Dobbs liked the speech was incorrect.

I believe one of the first lines out of his mouth was that it was a good speech.

He may have gone on to trash the speech after that, I didn't see the rest of it.

2,690 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: rolling_stone

Yet Reagan did not veto it.


2,691 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:27 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: wardaddy
anyone opposes..they are a bigot sort of stuff.

I agree. When someone is down to their last card, it's always the bigot one they throw out.

2,692 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:32 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Wuli

You're right. I guess I just expected worse. Congress is where we will really get the shaft from. You could wish that the Pres. had the guts to really lead but given his complete inattention to this for six years I had no illusions that he would. And if he did would Congress follow? There's no precedent in his Presidency for that either.


2,693 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Soul Seeker
I think he was a bit dismayed that all of you "true conservatives" didn't even allow Meirs a chance to testify. I don't blame him, once again the "rabid right" dishonored all of us.
2,694 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:55 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Vicomte13
LOL..they are the fringe..believe me if you can.
2,695 posted on 05/15/2006 9:43:34 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: JeffAtlanta

You did it for me . It went to VDARE.


2,696 posted on 05/15/2006 9:43:39 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: STARWISE

It wouldn't be simple and maybe not as effective as proponents hope, but I am all for a fence/wall and every other means of preventing illegals from entering our country.

I heard George Alolen speak tonight on Hannity and liked what he said. He and some other senators are determined to stop McCain/Kennedy and insisit on enforcement first.

I have yet to hear anyone mention a deadline for illegals to sing up for any type of 'new" guest worker program or for any of the current laws regarding 'green card holders. I think a date determined is a necessity too.


2,697 posted on 05/15/2006 9:43:48 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Texasforever
So now we are using the John Birch Society, the looniest of the loony right as a source of FreeRepublic. This is just amazing.

They may be loony to a bushbot, but can you dispute 'with facts' that they are wrong??? I haven't read any of their stuff in a long while but I remember some of it being pretty interesting...

2,698 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:05 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Texasforever

What the heck is Vdare?


2,699 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:16 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: JeffAtlanta

"From now on do your own research."

That'll take quite a while, in my exposure.


2,700 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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