[doc30]

There is some serious misinformation in this post. For example, the H-4 visa isn't new. It is the visa granted to the the spouse and children of any H visa class holder. H-4 visa holders are not allowed to work, but are allowed to go to school. The provision on increasing the number of visas to immediate family members of green card holders is, in my opinion, long overdue. For example, a U.S. citizen can bring a foreign spouse into the U.S. immediately. A non-immigrant visa holder can bring in his immediate family right away. If you get your green card while your family is outside the country, they are now processing applications filed 10 years age and if you file today, it will be 20 years before your wife can even enter the U.S. While the application is pending, your spouse could not even enter the country! If you had a newborn and filed today, they would age-out (i.e. become non-dependent adults) by the time their application was processes. Essentially, a permanent immigrant would never see his children again! That part of the system is very broken.

What should be considered is the point based system that Canada and Australia use. If you speak English, you get some points. If you have a degree, you get more points. If you are in a critical occupation (doctor, nurse, etc) you get more points. If you are under 30, you get more points. If you have family in the country, you get points. When it comes time to select immigrants to enter the country, you pick the ones with the most points and go down the list until the quota for the year is full. To adjust the mix of immigrants to reflect the needs of the nation, you adjust the number of points in each category. Very flexible system.

[sheana]

What should be considered is the point based system that Canada and Australia use. If you speak English, you get some points. If you have a degree, you get more points. If you are in a critical occupation (doctor, nurse, etc) you get more points. If you are under 30, you get more points. If you have family in the country, you get points. When it comes time to select immigrants to enter the country, you pick the ones with the most points and go down the list until the quota for the year is full. To adjust the mix of immigrants to reflect the needs of the nation, you adjust the number of points in each category. Very flexible system.


I have been saying that for years. Why do we want to import poverty from third world nations. Immigrating here should be beneficial to the country as a whole. Immigrants should be financially secure or in a profession that is needed. After those qualificatiosn I don't care where they come from or what color they are.

[3AngelaD]

I trust Senator Sessions and the Heritage Foundation. You obviously have a some kind of personal vested interest in this. If people break their own families apart to come here, that is not our problem. It was their decision.

[goldstategop]

That assumes our immigration laws will be enforced. My own gut feeling is we will end up with somewhere close to 800-900 million people in America in a generation. Right now there are 300 million people in America. So I'm just projecting outward from current trends and this proposed new legislation. America is a popular destination - you can't find a quality of life anywhere else on the planet like exists in this country and that's not going to change regardless of what Congress does.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

[Tammy8]

I like the idea of a point system, I was never sure how all this worked, but I have heard the system is a mess.

My concern is I do not think we should reward those who came here illegally in any way. If we are going to issue them work permits they need to be at the back of the line, behind all those who have legally applied.

This is a mess that has been growing for years, it will take something drastic to really fix it. I think we all do agree the system need to be fixed, we just disagree on how to fix it.

[Old Professer]

Maybe that works where thay count noses...

[WOSG]

"What should be considered is the point based system that Canada and Australia use. If you speak English, you get some points."

Great idea.... the multi-culturalists would hate it.
"Diversity quotas" need to go as well.

Overall, we should end chain migration. immediate family only (spouse and children) and employment-based visas, that's it. And end the birthright citizenship, which has been abused no end.

[Criminal Number 18F]

It is the visa granted to the the spouse and children of any H visa class holder. H-4 visa holders are not allowed to work, but are allowed to go to school. The provision on increasing the number of visas to immediate family members of green card holders is, in my opinion, long overdue.

Under the Martinez-Hagel sellout, the "family member" becomes extended family, not (as now) immediate family, parents, children, etc.

If you speak English, you get some points.

How bout, if you speak no English, you get no visa.

If you have family in the country, you get points.

You mean if you are a cousin, adult brother, grandparent of one of the 12 to 36 million illegals we have now, we should throw wide the gates? Better idea: send the family to you.

To adjust the mix of immigrants to reflect the needs of the nation, you adjust the number of points in each category. Very flexible system.

That's what Canada does, more or less. Except that the system would be completely politicized in this country. Why not have a twelve month moratorium on all immigration, coupled with firm border enforcement? Let Joe Arpaio run the temporary holding facility. After a year we'll know how much immigration we "need."

One camel's nose in the bill is this: any woman or child in the world who "feels" threatened is entitled to entry. Then of course, the chain migration of husband, father, mother, siblings, cousins, is initiated.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F