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To: doc30
It is the visa granted to the the spouse and children of any H visa class holder. H-4 visa holders are not allowed to work, but are allowed to go to school. The provision on increasing the number of visas to immediate family members of green card holders is, in my opinion, long overdue.

Under the Martinez-Hagel sellout, the "family member" becomes extended family, not (as now) immediate family, parents, children, etc.

If you speak English, you get some points.

How bout, if you speak no English, you get no visa.

If you have family in the country, you get points.

You mean if you are a cousin, adult brother, grandparent of one of the 12 to 36 million illegals we have now, we should throw wide the gates? Better idea: send the family to you.

To adjust the mix of immigrants to reflect the needs of the nation, you adjust the number of points in each category. Very flexible system.

That's what Canada does, more or less. Except that the system would be completely politicized in this country. Why not have a twelve month moratorium on all immigration, coupled with firm border enforcement? Let Joe Arpaio run the temporary holding facility. After a year we'll know how much immigration we "need."

One camel's nose in the bill is this: any woman or child in the world who "feels" threatened is entitled to entry. Then of course, the chain migration of husband, father, mother, siblings, cousins, is initiated.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

105 posted on 05/15/2006 12:15:25 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Criminal Number 18F
If the H-4 provisions are changed for extended family members, then it's to much. For a non-employment authorized spouse and dependent kids it's one thing, but not something for the whole tribe to come over!

I do agree that a point systems would be open to severe political abuse. I can just imagine the contrast between what a Dem administration would award points for and what a Republican administration would do. Essentially just multiply the points from one part by -1 to get the points for the other party.

The points for family are granted, I believe, for family that can supply support for the immigrant. It's like the system already in place, but not enforced. If you bring in a family member, you have to sign an affidavidt of support where you promise to repay any social services your relatives you sponsor may use. Just enforce that provision, along with punishing the employers of illegals and the situation would be self adjusting.

137 posted on 05/15/2006 1:39:23 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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