Posted on 05/15/2006 8:37:59 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
WASHINGTON U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) today unveiled an impact analysis that shows the Senate immigration bill should it become law would permit up to 217.1 million new legal immigrants into the United States over the next 20 years, a number equal to 66 percent of the total current population of the United States.
Even if the maximum levels are not reached, the increase to the U.S. population caused by S. 2611 will be at least 78.7 million in 20 years, just over 25 percent of the total current population. This lower estimate assumes that the bill's escalating caps on certain visas will not increase at all over the next 20 years; if the bill's caps are hit each year, the total number will be the higher estimate.
Until now, most of us have focused on securing the border and deciding how to treat the illegal alien population already in the United States, Sessions said. Few, if any, of us have looked ahead to see what the long-term numerical impact of the bill would be. My staff and I have just completed such a study, and the results are shocking.
Sessions discussed his findings at a news conference today, along with Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, who released his own analysis showing similar numbers.
As we begin debate today on the floor, my goal is to get these numbers before my colleagues so that they can appreciate just how breath-takingly unsatisfactory this 614-page Senate bill is, Sessions said. We know that this country is going to treat the illegal alien population fairly. However, if the Senate wants to be successful in passing immigration reform, it should produce a bill that secures the borders and the workplace and establishes a commonsense, carefully thought out, legally enforceable policy for legal immigration in the future. For our immigration system to work, the Senate bill must guarantee that todays facade of enforcement and illegal immigration flows wont exist in the future.
If the current legal immigration level (950,000 a year for 20 years or 18.9 million over 20 years) is excluded from the total, according to Sessions, the Senate bill could be described as increasing legal immigration by 59 million to 198.2 million over 20 years.
These are actually very conservative estimates, Sessions said. For example, for the low end, we assumed the caps would never escalate, and we only added an average of 1.2 immediate family members coming in with each alien worker. Additionally, our numerical analysis did not add in estimates of future illegal immigration flows, or include any estimates for chain-migration the parents, brothers and sisters that new citizens can bring in on a permanent basis.
Chain-migration occurs when an immigrant becomes a citizen. Citizens have a legal right to bring in family members other than spouses and children. They can bring in their parents, their adult siblings and the spouses and children of their adult siblings.
You can see how the potential exponential growth impact of the Senate legislation will cause consternation on the part of Congress and the American people , Sessions said.
The Senate bill would increase permanent future immigration into the United States in several ways.
LOW SKILLED PERMANENT IMMIGRATION:
H-2C Workers: By creating a new (H-2C) visa category for temporary guest workers (low skilled workers) with an annual cap of 325,000 that increases up to 20 percent each year the cap is met, the bill allows at least 6.5 million, and up to 60.7 million new guest workers to come to the United States over the next 20 years. There is nothing temporary about these workers. Employers may file a green card application on their behalf as soon as they arrive in the United States, or the worker may self-petition for a green card after four years of work.
H-4 Family Members of H-2C Workers: By creating a new visa category (H-4) for the immediate family members of the future low-skilled workers (H-2C), and allowing them to also receive green cards, the bill would allow at least 7.8 million, and up to 72.8 million immediate family members of low-skilled workers to come to the United States over the next 20 years.
HIGH SKILLED PERMANENT IMMIGRATION:
H-1B: The bill would essentially open the borders to high-skilled workers, as well as low-skilled workers. By increasing the annual cap of 65,000 to 115,000, automatically increasing the new cap by 20 percent each year the cap is hit, and creating a new exemption to new cap for anyone who has an advanced degree in science, technology, engineering, or math from any foreign university, the number of H-1B workers coming into the United States would undoubtedly escalate. The 20-year impact of this escalation could be anywhere from 1 million to 20.1 million. H-1B workers are eligible for green cards and would be allowed to stay and work in the United States for as long as it takes to process the green card application.
STEEP INCREASES TO ANNUAL GREEN CARD LIMITS:
Family Based Green Cards: The bill would increase the annual cap on family based green cards available to non-immediate family members (adult sons and daughters, adults siblings, and the spouses and children of adult siblings) by more than 100 percent, upping the current cap of 226,000 to 480,000 a year. Immediate family members are already able to immigrate without regard to the family based green card caps. The 20-year impact of this change would be an increase of 5.1 million non-immediate family member green cards.
Employment Based Green Cards The bill would increase the annual cap on employment-based green cards by more than 500 percent, upping the current cap of 140,000 to 450,000 until 2016 and to 290,000 thereafter and exempting all immediate family members that currently count against the cap today (spouses, children and parents) from the newly escalated cap. The new exemption would result in an average of 540,000 family members receiving green cards each year of the first 10 years, and an average of 348,000 family members receiving green cards each year of the second 10 years. The 20-year impact of this change would be an increase of 13.5 million employment-based green cards, for a total of 16.3 million employment-based green cards issued over the course of the next 20 years.
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It isn'y just the numbers... although here's another eye-opening look at them:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
"The figure of 103 million legal immigrants is a reasonable estimate of the actual immigration inflow under the bill and not the maximum number that would be legally permitted to enter. The maximum number that could legally enter would be almost 200 million over twenty years..."
Half of Americans would be unskilled Mexican welfare collectors in that scenario.
The current obstacles before skilled immigrants will not be lowered by this bill, however. It would still be very difficult for a British scientist or an Indian doctor (or Mexican engineer or dentist, unlike a Mexican illiterate) to come here. But the barriers to unskilled, illiterate labor would all drop.
Under Martinez-Hagel, it would be perfectly legal for an American company to let go its American workforce and hire Mexicans (in Mexico, bringing them to the states on a guaranteed citizenship track) for ten cents on the dollar. State governments could save by hiring illiterate Mexicans for the highway patrol (that probably won't happen -- the cops have a healthy union).
The bill also amnesties all the current illegal aliens, people like Douglass Herrera Castellanos, from Guatemala. Hired as a handyman, Herrera instead, "beat, cut, raped, sodomized and strangled the greatest love of my life and the mother of my two children," Mary Nagle's widower told the judge, who didn't sentence poor, misunderstood Herrera to death.
Herrera then "used her cell phone afterward to brag about the crime .... Five women said they received calls from a man with a Spanish accent..."
Herrera is in prison... for now. But he will be amnestied and put on the citizenship track by the Martinez-Hagel bill.
http://ap.washingtontimes.com/dynamic/stories/S/SUBURBAN_NIGHTMARE?SITE=DCTMS&SECTION=HOME
Here's one of Mexico's finest.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/alert/badillo_jg.htm
"Jose Gustavo Badillo is wanted for allegedly raping and molesting a minor female over the course of several years...Badillo was charged with first degree rape....with transporting a minor in foreign commerce with intent to engage in sexual activity, and tampering with a federal witness/victim....possession of child pornography."
In Mexico, Badillo was a cop. If you've ever dealt with Mexican police, that will not shock you.
Here are all the names on the FBI's Wanted Murderers page right now:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/vc/murders/vc_murders.htm
VIOLENT CRIMES - MURDERS
Kevin Lamont Carter
Manuel Medina
Claudio Gutierrez-Cruz
Duane Latoye Geiger
John Patrick Addis
Saul Aguilar, Jr.
Fernando Arenas-Collazo
Richard Lynn Bare
Arnulfo Beltran-Barboza
Cyril L. Byrd
Jose Rosendo Carrillo-Padilla
Antonio Carrillo-Vera
Cesar Carlos Castaneda
Guillermo Peralta Castaneda
Calvin Maurice Cooley
Sukhrob Davronov
Christopher Allen Dean
Errol Anthony Domangue
Lawrence William Fishman
Gregorio Flores-Albarran
Rodolfo Flores-Albarran
Chiron Sharroll Francis
Moises Galvan-Gonzalez
Usiel Mora Gayosso
Rosemary Lorraine Godbolt-Molder
Sherry Halligan
Paul Joseph Harmon
Hazel Leota Head
Miguel Angel Hermosillio-Alcaraz
William Junior Jordan
Diego Trejo
Juan Antonio Pena
Tarek Ahmed El-Zoghpy
Lester Edward Eubanks
Daniel Keo Kung
David Gibson Lindsay
Michael David Marks
Francisco Martinez
Juan Carlos Martinez
Juan Carlos Mayorga
Jesse Mendez
Marvin Aclaro Mercado
Morris Alex Mills
Boris Mogilevich
David Nam
Eduardo Gilbert Nevarez
Mahboob M. Pasha
John Henry Ramirez
Roberto Ramirez
Bernabe Roman
Adolfo S. Sanchez
Daniel Scaife
Alvin Scott
Daniel Min Suh
William Claybourne Taylor
Jorge Emmanuel Torres-Reyes
Hugo Varela
Jacobo Varela
Terrence Jerome Ward
Adam Mark Zachs
Bush's "Temporary Guest Workers" -- just doing the crimes Americans won't do... I leave as an exercise to the reader to figure out who the citizens are (remember, some Spanish names are citizens, and some Anglo names are Caribbean immigrants, so you can't just "assume." You can follow the links on the FBI page and see. Do it quick, before the Bush Administration makes them take the page down).
Mexican murderers, Pakistani murderers, Jamaican murderers, Colombian murderers. What do these men have in common? All of them get the gift of citizenship/amnesty from Martinez, Hagel and Bush.
If you think doubling or trebling the FBI's workload (not to mention that of local LE) then you should be all for this amnesty bill.
Bear in mind, too, that this amnesty bill is going to be administered by a Democratic administration and tweaked by a congress where Dems hold the house sooner or later... probably sooner, because this give-away of national sovereignty is the #1 legislative priority of the Republican Party.
Bill Frist can't be bothered to get a vote on the judges, but he can fast-track this. Honestly, could Democrats be any worse?
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
The'll just be doing the advanced and high tech jobs that Americans don't want to do.
Over 100 posts now without a squawk from the harpies and FROBLs. Hmmmm....
The GOOD news is that India and China will outsource their work to the good old USA for the cheap third world labor we will have in abundance........
Under the Martinez-Hagel sellout, the "family member" becomes extended family, not (as now) immediate family, parents, children, etc.
If you speak English, you get some points.
How bout, if you speak no English, you get no visa.
If you have family in the country, you get points.
You mean if you are a cousin, adult brother, grandparent of one of the 12 to 36 million illegals we have now, we should throw wide the gates? Better idea: send the family to you.
To adjust the mix of immigrants to reflect the needs of the nation, you adjust the number of points in each category. Very flexible system.
That's what Canada does, more or less. Except that the system would be completely politicized in this country. Why not have a twelve month moratorium on all immigration, coupled with firm border enforcement? Let Joe Arpaio run the temporary holding facility. After a year we'll know how much immigration we "need."
One camel's nose in the bill is this: any woman or child in the world who "feels" threatened is entitled to entry. Then of course, the chain migration of husband, father, mother, siblings, cousins, is initiated.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
You must not have seen how third world people live at home -- they'll be bringing the shantytowns with. They won't have the money to spend on housing, because the whole idea is to make cheap, expendable labor available to industry at slave wages, while providing benefits through public assistance.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
"I also think it's not a bad idea to simply let any PhD who wants to work here do so."
" It will mean that for the American students this will not be any more a viable career. "
I have a PhD myself, and I can assure you, that is not the case AT ALL. Most of my colleagues are ALREADY foreign-born immigrants, who come through immigrant visas, most normally the route being an F-1 student visa then H1B and/or apply for green card.
The impact being felt is not what you think: Rather than harming the local market for talent, we have the opposite situation: A stark shortage of American citizens willing to go through to PhD level. It's mostly our education system, or people not willing to wait through grad school for a professional and academic career. Whatever it is, the result is a shortage of post-grad people in hard sciences and engineering relative to the need.
More Americans should go into math and engineering.
The opportunities, pay and pschic rewards are very good,
and anyone good at what they do is not afraid of the competition. Jump in, the water's fine.
"Let's make USA the brain capital of the world."
"It will not work."
Actually, it already is working. America produces more Nobel prize winners and more patents than any other nation.
More of the same would not hurt us at all.
" As the standard of living will become similar to the other countries ..."
If you think our importing of very smart people lowers our standard of living, you are loopy. As I mentioned, quite a few high tech successes are due to such immigrants, and it has been a key factor in America's continued dominance in many high tech areas.
"USA will stop to be attractive for the newcomers unless very poor and desperate."
SO, if it stops to be attractive, they stop coming. Seems to be a self-correcting system, no?
Here's reality: They are coming already, and they have some marginal dampening effect on employment wages, that is more than balanced by the fact that high tech employment creates a wealth multiplier and jobs multiplier. As a result, the benefits of higher economic standard of living and more jobs creates so many side benefits, nation as a whole benefits.
As long as it is within reason (not opening floodgates) and the job market can absorb it (which it can, when we have 3% unemployment in the sector), it's a net benefit.
Don't worry about housing prices, worry about your property taxes. Here in northern Virginia (and DC and Maryland) we are providing hunderds of thousands of them with nice Section 8 housing.
Maybe people are afraid of "competition", lack of stability and becoming "obsolete" when reaching forty.
Which sector?
From Cornyn 2003: "Speaking in Mexico City on Friday, Republican John Cornyn said it was "past time" for his colleagues in Congress to consider legislation making some form of guest-worker program a reality. "
Even Tancredo is for a guest worker program.
Cornyn has tried hard to match enforcement with guest worker program and straddle to difficult contrary agendas.
The issue is in the details of limits, numbers, path to citizenship, etc. Worst-case you get McCain-Kennedy, which gives 12 million a bee-line to jump the immigration line.
Cornyn's is about as limited as you can get while satisfying the contrary demand for matching willing employers and willing workers. (Kyl-Cornyn is the bill.)
IMHO, it should be supported as the best we could hope to get out of the Senate, and one of the few guest worker programs that would be better than status quo.
Stick a fork in it. The Senate Bill will be toast now.
"we have 3% unemployment in the sector
Which sector?"
High-tech, ie post-grad-level engineering employment.
Maybe we can get the environmentalists to support our side of the immigration issue.
Really? I know people with PhDs who struggle to be employed.
"More Americans should go into math and engineering. The opportunities, pay and pschic rewards are very good, and anyone good at what they do is not afraid of the competition. Jump in, the water's fine."
"Maybe people are afraid of "competition", lack of stability and becoming "obsolete" when reaching forty."
Are we a whiny, wimpy, cant-do culture afraid of our shadow, or a self-reliant, self-confident can-do society?
If you are good at your work 'competition' means nothing, it's just a bunch of folks not quite as good as you at what you do. If you want to not be 'obsolete', stay technically current. If you dont like the rules at work, make your own rules by working for yourself. etc.
I'm not for open borders, as I said, but this assumption that Americans at any level not being to take the heat of competition from some immigration is frankly insulting to Americans.
Not the Sierra Club. I'm a long time member, and called their SF main number today to alert them to the impacts of the Hagel Martinez bill. I got a very snooty response indeed.
I am now an ex member.
"High-tech, ie post-grad-level engineering employment."
"Really? I know people with PhDs who struggle to be employed."
Sure. Next time tell them English Lit. is the wrong field. :-)
I struggled to be employed as a PhD ... in 1991 when there was a recession. Not now. Jobs are going begging now. If you cant find jobs in this environment (or in similar environment of bubble back in late 1990s), you probably are not competent, or you are in the wrong field. Half the reason 'outsourcing' happens is simply that we cant find good talent *at all* in the US and go elsewhere to find it.
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