Conservatives sitting out 2006 hurts the GOP’s right, not the RINOs

National Review ^ | 05/15/06 08:39 AM | Jim Geraghty

[hedgetrimmer]

Just where does the platform show an effort to defend individual rights? Seriously. Is it in there anywhere?

[cva66snipe]

I won't hurt a good Conservative in my vote as I will indeed vote. If they did their job honorably then they earned being reelected. But I will not under any circumstances vote for a RINO. For example if Bob Corker get the nod to run against Harold Ford JR I will look to an Independent.

However IF the White House and RNC can manage to keep their noses out of the race this time then Ed Bryant {Conservative} will very likely win Frist seat and I will vote for him. He was one of the House Managers shafted by the GOP. Some how though some way I'm certain Washington DC can mess even this one up. On a positive note I see no links of Corker to Poppy Bush so maybe W will leave this one alone.

Voters need to send a loud and clear message to the RNC and White House no more business as usual. Be ready to do it again in 2008 as well. By 2012 No More RINO's should be the goal. Punish the RINO's by voting them out. If you can't vote a DEM fine also. Don't vote for either one. Send them a loud and clear message in November. Unless this is done ones like Hatch and Specter will stay there as long as Kennedy and Thurmond.

[delacoert]

There are few, if ANY, "straight shooters" among the Obsessed and Hysterical.

A value judgment, to which you are surely entitled.

When I consider and judge, I'm unable to be so dismismisive. However, I'm just a nobody who merely interprets what I read -- whose interpretation is obviously constrained by untold biases and limitations to which my betters are certainly not subject.

Many of the line-in-the-sand, conservative declarations I read, and falteringly interpret, strike me as honest expressions from straight shooters, i.e., "I can't take it any more" and "I won't vote for a RINO."

You say they are "obsessed and hysterical." Fine. You are clearly justified to ignore them... don't spend a minute trying to understand... mock and marginalize the people that try to explain their views. They are just the fringe... nothing to worry about.

[stands2reason]

No, I voted for Clinton cos I thought I was liberal at the time.

I know many Perot voters who went that way because they distrusted Bush.

[Holden Magroin]

It makes no sense to punish Republicans who are serious about border security. The problem is, only a handful of them are serious.

[Holden Magroin]

A. Help their anti-illegal immigration cause

It will result in the defeat of conservative impersonators who whore for big business and use social issues to trick middle America into voting for them. These posers can't use the homosexual marriage issue this time.

B. Make sure that "the message" gets through (has any "message" vote EVER changed the party as the messengers intended?) and changes are made accordingly, and

I can only speak for myself. I'm not trying to send a message; I'm trying to purify the party of liberal contaminants. C. Guarantee that the Republicans of their choosing suddenly take back the Congress in 08 while keeping Hillary out of power

I can't guarantee anything other than that the Republican Congress you want to keep in power is going to get Hillary elected because of its blind support for Third World mass immigration. We lost California because of this.

[MaineVoter2002]

Remember Congressman Bob Dorman of California?

He got voted out of office by a margin of 900...ILLEGALS. A liberal democrat now holds that seat. Be careful what you support. Now that these 12 million illegals have come out of the closet they WILL be voting in Nov. 2006 and they do NOT vote for republicans.

[NutCrackerBoy]

Make it known what you want for your vote, then vote. Vote for Republicans.

[Darkwolf377]

It will result in the defeat of conservative impersonators who whore for big business and use social issues to trick middle America into voting for them. These posers can't use the homosexual marriage issue this time.

But the RINOs aren't the ones most at risk in this election--the true conservatives are. Poke around here and find a thread posted today that analyzes the at-risk seats. They're almost all Conservatives, with one or two RINOs.

So how are you goign to make sure on'y these "fake" conservatives are defeated while the real ones aren't in this election? And when your plan as described above backfires, as the facts in that article indicate, the message will be "Conservatives lose, RINOs win"--OK, so how are you going to spin THAT one? "Ooops, sorry, we REALLy want Conservatives to win, it's those damned RINOs who WON the election we don't like?

I can only speak for myself. I'm not trying to send a message; I'm trying to purify the party of liberal contaminants.

See my answer above and search the threads for that analysis. Your way isn't cutting off your nose to spite your face; it's cuttign off your head to spite your nose.

I can't guarantee anything other than that the Republican Congress you want to keep in power is going to get Hillary elected because of its blind support for Third World mass immigration. We lost California because of this.

And a Democrat Congress WON'T help get her elected?

Look at your last point again--I mean, come on, that doesn't even make sense. Putting in a Democrat congress will stop mass immigration HOW? And in the process destroy Bush, raise taxes, stop conservative SCOTUS picks...

In my post I said I was waiting for logical answers. Still waiting.

[rhombus]

No, I voted for Clinton cos I thought I was liberal at the time. I know many Perot voters who went that way because they distrusted Bush.

I know almost NO liberals who voted for Perot and I work in Massachusetts.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Not exactly. Parties understand that the nation has different mixes of political beliefs and that running the same candidate in Utah as in NY would like produce losses in each. Politics is the science of the possible and abstract ideals and principles are not always consistent with the possible. There is nothing wrong with this since Life forces all idealisms to accomodate its needs.

Our present Union was born through compromise of deeply held principles.

Though it may be that we are speaking of polarities and gradations along a line of principle. And the idea is to find that point of agreement on the line which will allow progress towards a goal.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Homophobe is a term created by the Treason Media to make it appear that people who disapprove of Homos really "fear" them.

While I fear their impact on our culture I fear nothing else about them. Loathe the Deathstyle, am disgusted with their disease spreading habits, am contemptuous of their behaviors but "fear" no, sorry if simple-minded assumptions are unfounded.

I sure it was very important for you to make THAT irrelevant point given the vacuousness of your thought processes.

[Yankee]

I hope your ready for higher taxes, a further erosion of liberty, gay marriage, and a completely gutless total surrender in the war against Islamofascism, in addition to the hordes of Mexican illegals that you'll get with either party in charge.

BTW: the Dems will fix it so they can vote and legally apply for federal assistance. Count on it.

Take your marbles and go home if you want. I'm not ready to quit just because I can't have a whole loaf.

[ckilmer]

that was a pretty good shot. but you're still a stranger. always have been. always will be.

[justshutupandtakeit]

To those whom I do not wish to be a stranger I am not. "You're nothing to me Fredo."

[justshutupandtakeit]

This best means of defending individual rights is the leaving of the individual alone unless criminal. Protecting the society within which Liberty is unfolded is the most important aspect of protecting individual rights. That is done by attacking our enemies and those who would remove all semblance of individual rights in the name of Allah.

Removal of too restrictive gun controls is another GOP standard to help protect individual rights. Lowering taxes are a means of protecting an individual's right to the product of his labor. Appointing conservative judges a means of protecting the individual by reigning in excessive government. Prescription program for the elderly certainly is a means of protecting individuals from sickness. Improving education provides individuals with a greater chance of achieving their potentials. The platform also reaffirms the Party's committment to the protection of property rights from unwarranted Takings.

But the most part of the platform is discussing foreign affairs, the war on terror, economic concerns, tax policy, legal reforms, etc. These issues affect 300 million individuals even if they are not specifically identified as means to "defend individual rights" they certainly do.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I will never sit back and allow tangential issues to overwhelm the primary one. National Security overrides all other concerns and if it is not in place nothing else is secure. That is the last concern of the Party of Treason.

When misinformation, disinformation and outright falsehoods are the stock in trade of the Obsessed they will not go unmocked. When the idea that increasing RAT power is acceptable I will not silently acquiesce. NOTHING has been done by the President or the GOP to justify this insanity and I will call it by name.

Over the years I have seen attacks on the GOP and President which are nothing more than attempts to divide the party often undertaken by those enamored of various "third" parties or Leftwing saboteurs. This hysteria over Illegals is some of both with a generous larding in of ignorance. Anyone who can stand back and watch huge RAT organized, sponsored and created demonstrations of Illegalities and STILL attack the President brings their rationality into question.

[Antoninus]

I'm not sitting out 2006. I'm only campaigning for, donating to, and voting for CONSERVATIVE Republicans. All others need not apply (this means you, Tom Kean, Jr.) See tagline.

[ckilmer]

and you are nothing to me. therefor your arguements are nothing. you have reached out and touched only the walls of your apt.

[justshutupandtakeit]

How will my heart ever stand up to the disappointment?