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To: areafiftyone
"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home,"

What disingenuous rubbish!! We don't need to round up and deport millions of people, just like the IRS doesn't need to audit every single tax return just to ensure reasonable compliance.

Punishing employers, eliminating anchor babies, refusing driver's licenses to illegals, making it a felony for a non-citizen to vote, denying public benefits to illegals, deporting any illegals that come to the attention of law enforcement -- these are just some of the things our nation could make the climate so uncomfortable that a lot of them would just leave on their own, and a lot more would think twice about coming here in the first place.

369 posted on 05/15/2006 7:04:08 AM PDT by Maceman (Fake but accurate, and now double-sourced)
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To: Maceman
What disingenuous rubbish!! We don't need to round up and deport millions of people, just like the IRS doesn't need to audit every single tax return just to ensure reasonable compliance.

The law does not require IRS audits for every return.

The law does have one prescribed penalty for illegal presence within our borders - deportation.

407 posted on 05/15/2006 7:12:26 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Maceman
Punishing employers, eliminating anchor babies, refusing driver's licenses to illegals, making it a felony for a non-citizen to vote, denying public benefits to illegals, deporting any illegals that come to the attention of law enforcement -- these are just some of the things our nation could make the climate so uncomfortable that a lot of them would just leave on their own, and a lot more would think twice about coming here in the first place.

1. Employers are currently protected by two Clinton era laws which make it illegal for them to ask for the status of a potential employee (considered discriminatory) and are only required to believe that the documents they are shown as proof of legality are authentic. Of course, large corporations have figured out how to use these laws to their advantage, and the passage of these laws in the late 90's is why employers have been less prosecuted.

2. According to most sources I have seen, eliminating anchor babies would require a constitutional amendment. In addition, you would have to write it so that it wasn't discriminatory towards Mexicans, and there are all sorts of complications in getting it past some state legislatures for ratification, particularly California and other states with high Hispanic populations and large Rat states like Illinois, Michigan, and New York.

3. It is STATES which have allowed drivers' licenses to illegals, and with that motor voter registration. Check California for what states, even those being crippled by immigration, do, all because of Rats wanting votes.

4. I would agree on the felony for voting if not a citizen, but I think that the law would have to be written very carefully. Proof of citizenship before registration would require repeal of the motor voter bill, and again, we run up against the obstruction of the democrats.

5. As of July 1, Medicaid recipiients will be required to show proof of citizenship. A lot of people complaining about the administration's actions have completely overlooked this excellent step towards getting the costs to hospitals under control. Of course, I am sure there is probably a lawsuit from the ACLU in the works to stop it.

5. Deporting illegals is a fine idea, but you do realize that unless they are suspected of criminal activity they have (by LAW) a right to a hearing to pleade their case, don't you? And we don't have enough cells to hold them, which is why the catch and release program got started. We are building more facilities to hold them, but because they are guaranteed hearings you are going to have a very slow rate of deportation.

The difficulties of the immigration laws are WHY we need comprehensive reform, as well as a secure border. Guest workers are a small part of what is needed, and in fact should only be considered with reform in the other areas I just detailed.

441 posted on 05/15/2006 7:21:07 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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