Posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
May 15, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In his live, nationally televised address tonight, President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here.
"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri in a preview of Bush's speech.
She said Bush plans to spell out his vision for sealing the border, enforcing the law, and "creating a rational system for workers to come into our country and to do jobs Americans won't do." Bush plans to visit the U.S.-Mexican border this week, and will dispatch his Cabinet to help sell the immigration plan.
The Senate plans to return to the contentious issue this week now that Republicans and Democrats have a deal to plow through controversial amendments. But the House and Senate are far apart on whether to put illegals on a path to citizenship.
Tamburri said Bush would call for "better equipment, increased funding, and advanced technology" to secure the border.
She didn't confirm press reports that Bush wants to expand deployments of National Guard Troops to step up border enforcement. Some Guard troops are already deployed in Arizona and New Mexico, but Bush is considering a big increase.
White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said that enforcement was the Border Patrol's job - but then asked whether they needed help from the Guard on an "interim basis."
"This is not about militarizing the border," he said. The president is looking to do everything he can to secure the border. It's what the American people want."
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
I'm sure it's not. I suspect if we didn't have alot of cheap labor they would figure out how to mechanize. I'm not 100% against a migrant worker program, but I cannot see how we could implement something without having exactly the same problem we are facing now, that would also be fair to the workers. Personally, I think this is a problem without a solution because we have let it go too far, and because there is not the will to do anything hard.
Ah well. BTW, I hope your weather out there has been better than ours in FL! We are going to either burn up, dry up or drown!
susie
Well, I kinda calculate that at a deportation rate of 3 million per year, assuming that the borders are closed sufficiently well to drop the influx of illegals by 90%, that it'll take just about five years to deport the 11 million, so I seriously doubt that many of them will have "died of old age". But, as I said, if it take ten years, I'll be happy.
"Where will you apply double the budget to net a doubling of effect. For instance what is your forecast for the increase in court costs? How about enforcement personnel, capital equipment, detention facilities, legal representation, health and human services logistics?"
Can't read very well, can you. I've already said that I would double that part of the INS budget that applies to deportation, which automatically includes all of those things.
"The law of diminishing returns most definitely applies since any increase in program effectiveness will be met with an increase of resistance activities. In the real world anyway."
Read up on Deming, SQC, and similar topics. The "law of diminishing returns" says: In a production system, having fixed and variable inputs, keeping the fixed inputs constant, as more of a variable input is applied, each additional unit of input yields less and less additional output. So it only applies IF the "fixed inputs" are held constant. We're not talking about a production system here, nor will the fixed inputs be held constant. So, as I said, it depends on how the budget gets applied.
"As an aside, what is FROBL? I'm not familiar with the term."
FROBL - Free Republic Open Borders Lobbyist
I'm sorry you believe I'm being antagonistic, but you are making statements and backing them up only with your belief or your personal local experience.
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What form of back up would you like? NYTimes articles? Good grief! You show me that every American between the age of 16 and 24 is working this summer or is looking and can't find work because illegals have taken their jobs, and I will continue this discussion. Otherwise, goodbye. We are talking past each other.
Thanks for the advice, but I think you are making things up.
I don't recall seeing anyone make that assertion. Do you just get really angry when people don't agree with you? I'm sorry if I made you mad, it really wasn't my intention.
susie
Oh, I forgot to say, I don't eat strawberries, but I'm sure they're picking someone's!
susie
I looked up the population of Mexico and saw that there are approximately 68 million between the ages of 14 and 65 (voters). We've got 11 million of them here, that's about 20 percent. If we could get them all to vote in the Mexican elections to be annexed by the United States, we could eliminate the border problem because there would be no border. We annex Mexico as a territory like Somoa or Puerto Rico. Still get the cheap labor and we get all that oil. Let's launch the campaign today to annex Mexico through our voting power of their citizens living in the U. S.
Didn't Heritage Foundation say (today) the number is between 30 and 50 million)?
OK W. Then lets not boot any taxes up your way come tax time.
Is your position that no drugs are smuggled into the USA across that border?
Even in North Texas, most of the fast food workers are Spanish and many do not speak any English at all. It's coming your way, be ready
See #804, then #871. That is the remark that I was responding to, when you wrote to me.
Interesting since my contention is the first necessary step to solving the problem is making it a felony to be in the country illegally.
Incidentally the law of diminishing returns does apply because you have multiple inputs and some would have to remain fixed (are you going to increase the number of court houses, admin staff, federal judges, etc all at once?) and unless some stay fixed, the budget becomes diluted across all variables, the process is constrained by the the least efficient variable and expense is applied non-productively to other variables. I have had enough Demming, Juran, SQC, game theory etc. to choke a horse. That's why I don't buy any of your level 1 logic.
You certainly can't tell that from the rest of your argments.
"I have had enough Demming, Juran, SQC, game theory etc. to choke a horse. That's why I don't buy any of your level 1 logic."
You obviously didn't pay much attention in those classes, then.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for your expositon of why it would be "illegitimate" to deport these criminals.
LOL! They are just so obnoxious that 1.6 billion seems like 60 million.
60 billion, I mean-with a "B"
"You must learn to walk before you can run."
And you're still an armchair general.
Hard to tell what that means.
That's the disadvantage of having a mind like a steel trap.
You seem perpetually confused and seem to ramble on aimlessly. Maybe you should seek some help in addition to your remedial English class.
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