BUSH: WE CAN'T BOOT 11M ILLEGALS

NY Post ^ | 5/15/06

[areafiftyone]

May 15, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In his live, nationally televised address tonight, President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here.

"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri in a preview of Bush's speech.

She said Bush plans to spell out his vision for sealing the border, enforcing the law, and "creating a rational system for workers to come into our country and to do jobs Americans won't do." Bush plans to visit the U.S.-Mexican border this week, and will dispatch his Cabinet to help sell the immigration plan.

The Senate plans to return to the contentious issue this week now that Republicans and Democrats have a deal to plow through controversial amendments. But the House and Senate are far apart on whether to put illegals on a path to citizenship.

Tamburri said Bush would call for "better equipment, increased funding, and advanced technology" to secure the border.

She didn't confirm press reports that Bush wants to expand deployments of National Guard Troops to step up border enforcement. Some Guard troops are already deployed in Arizona and New Mexico, but Bush is considering a big increase.

White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said that enforcement was the Border Patrol's job - but then asked whether they needed help from the Guard on an "interim basis."

"This is not about militarizing the border," he said. The president is looking to do everything he can to secure the border. It's what the American people want."

[Protagoras]

In the olden days, we teens used to mow our neighbors' lawns (if the Dads didn't do it themselves), flip the burgers at Happy Hound, fill-up the gas at Union 76, and perform other jobs that "Americans won't do".

There ya have it.

Not only did we perform the same services at comparable prices, but we didn't load the system with under-the-water-line social costs that threaten to bankrupt certain border states.

Sounds like you have a problem with the laws that the elected idiots made. Has nothing to do with the people who naturally will pick up money laying on the ground.

[Hostage]

'Policy of Attrition' Bump!

[rodeocowboy]

Real intelligent answer. I suppose you have the ultimate solution to rid a group of people 4 times the size of LA?

The employer thing may work to an extent but even then you've got to catch them first and the future even without a job here is better in most cases than with a job there.

Yes we could and make the economy boom at the same time. It all comes down to a simply conservative idea:

If we cut taxes by 2/3 and government spending/programs/employees by 1/3 (along with the bureaucratic processing time to admit guest workers that are standing in line), and then spent the additional funds immediately on the border and employer-enforcement, the economy would boom so greatly that the illegals would deport themselves in order to get into (the now faster) immigrations line in order to get a great American job at more than 60 measly dollars per day. Conservatism is a win-win situation, always. Sadly though, we don't have a truly conservative party representing us in Washington so we are stuck with the status quo.

[dirtboy]

So, dirtboy, are you saying that if NO legislation was being considered, there wouldn't be a hoopla about this?

There would be a lot less hoopla. No legislation is better than bad legislation.

[theDentist]

Thanks... I wonder if NM and California will participate...?

[1Old Pro]

All I can say is

If he is going to ask for Prime Time TV Converage for the FIRST TIMW in his Presidency on a Domestic issue...

It had better be BOLD, and NEW and BIG. If it is window dressing and nothing really new this will be a MAJOR FLOP because people will only scratch their heads.

[APFel]

Very well, I will admit to this possibility. However, on top of the demonstrations themselves, there are certain concerns about how this is being handled within the GOP. The "we tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas" method just, well, to use the strongest yet family friendly word allowed, SUCKS.

They are bending and scraping to a segment of the population that isn't even allowed to vote by law (although if the immigration laws don't count for beans to the GOP, that whole voting thing might not be an issue with them, either). A half of a million people mobilized in a major American city is a symptom of a HUGE problem. The May first "Day without a gringo" (encouraged on both sides of the border) is a symptom of a HUGE problem. The abundance of Mexican flags at these gatherings is a symptom of a HUGE problem.

And what's the fix? We are told they are here because we are too lazy to do the work, and we get "easy to swallow" non-amnesty amnesty rhetoric.

I am concerned that such a large migration will lead to the dissolution of US institutions and replaced with Latin American methodologies. This I DO NOT like.

History shows what mass migration does to nations. The colonists in North and South America, the Turks in the Byzantine empire, The Angles, Saxons and Normans in Briton, the Golden Horde in Russia... For better or worse, these populations bring their lifestyles and heritages. Unlike mass migrations to this nation in the past(from Europe, China, etc) they are coming in such numbers and from such an isolated geographic location (Mexico) that assimilation is no longer a necessity as it was for most immigrants in the past.

And what really irks me is that our house is on fire and I am told to stop complaining about it.

So perhaps the ANSWR types are using this as a wedge issue to dissolve the GOP base. But this issue was bound to come up sooner or later (when it becomes even MORE of a crisis or worse... a complete disaster) and we may as well deal with it NOW on a non-presidential election year.

Leaders MUST make policy, election year or not. To do otherwise is not to lead, but to cower.

APf

[Jim Noble]

Give them 90 days to exit the country. If they do not, they will be spending 10 years in jail - no bail, no parole. And if any employer hires an illegal - knowingly or unknowingly - they get one year in jail and $10,000 fine for each violation.

If you do the employer bit, you'll be able to serve all the illegals breakfast in bed every day they remain here - you won't even have to slap them on the wrist.

Each one will be gone in a week.

[brytlea]

Why would you call it a silly story? I'm trying to have a civil debate, and you call it silly. I'm sorry you find it so.
And, I was making between 6 and 8 dollars an hour (yes, with a college degree--this was in about 1989-1990). And, no benefits.
susie

[hispanarepublicana]

IMO, the border issue has caused more casualties here on FR.

I've been here since Nov. 2000. I've never seen anything more divisive on FR than this. Some days, I ask myself.....would today's FR be capable of garnering enough collective fellowship and effort to result in another "Sore Loserman" or "Get Out of Cheney's House" FReep?

[small voice in the wilderness]

...yeah...let hillary get the nomination...

[hispanarepublicana]

That isn't true in my town.

[misterrob]

Hey, the National ID card.

Thanks for proving point about government expansion.

Pssst. By the way, if you are going to call people idiots, be careful not to resemble on youself.

[Tokra]

Where can I get one of those bumper stickers - The kind that has a "W", with the international red circle and slash thru it?

I'm sure that George Soros, MoveOn, Democratic Underground or the DNC will be only too happy to supply you with one.

[maica]

At the grocery store where I shopped yesterday, the bagger was saying to the cashier that he wanted to be a cashier. She said you are too young. You have to be sixteen. Neither one of these employees was speaking Spanish. There ARE jobs that American high school kids can do. In some public high schools Many of the juniors and seniors go to jobs after school. The unavailability of jobs has become some sort of accepted wisdom, but very little first hand proof have I read anywhere.

[maica]

At the grocery store where I shopped yesterday, the bagger was saying to the cashier that he wanted to be a cashier. She said you are too young. You have to be sixteen. Neither one of these employees was speaking Spanish. There ARE jobs that American high school kids can do. In some public high schools Many of the juniors and seniors go to jobs after school. The unavailability of jobs has become some sort of accepted wisdom, but very little first hand proof have I read anywhere.

[Earthdweller]

"Americans saw what was at stake during the millions of illegals marching down our streets demanding citizenship."

I know..that's what turned me..even tho I know full well they were coached by the Dems, you can't get that many people to agree with you overnight.

I have some Christian Mexican friends and I know they are for the most part good people. I just wish someone along the line..Dem or Republican would have thought to let more of them in legally. Bush seems to keep getting the job of cleaning up decades of every other admins messes.

We really do need to increase our numbers as a result of our abortion losses to survive globally and economically..but it should have been done aboveboard.

[misterrob]

Sure, cut and run in the face of AQ.

Good strategy

[Miss Marple]

First, Dennis, you need to get that law passed by the Congress. The President can't just declare new punishments. He's not Stalin.

[Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit]

You see the problem is that you have actually thought this one out. The prospect of the American government rounding up and deporting people scares you, as well it should.

The people you find spouting off, don't have any concept of what deportation would actually mean. They also don't seem to have much of a concept of 11 million.

There is no final solution to this problem that does not involve a vastly richer Mexico. The funny thing is that this doesn't really seem to ever cross people's minds as the rant about how horrible NAFTA has been.