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Rush Limbaugh and Liberalism’s Fatal Flaw
The American Thinker ^ | May 15, 2006 | Vasko Kohlmayer

Posted on 05/15/2006 5:36:17 AM PDT by Quilla

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To: Vision

Or, as Rush said so eloquently years ago, "it takes work, and time, to turn a rational child into a liberal." With arguments for abortion that, while abortion kills a baby, the birth of a baby "kills" the dreams of the young teenage mother, so it's really about which killing is more appropriate.


61 posted on 05/15/2006 7:23:55 AM PDT by tom h
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
It is natural to claim objectivity if you can get away with it.

Only if you're intellectually dishonest, which is the case for the entire enterprise of schools of journalism.

62 posted on 05/15/2006 7:25:44 AM PDT by angkor
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
You wish to bring conservative candidates on Rush's talk show in order to dissect their platform and their stance on certain issues. Correct? Isn't that what you said in your post #27?

I asked why shouldn't we subject the democRATS to the same scrutiny? Why should they get a pass? Why should they be allowed to remain vague and contradictory?

In response, you send me to your post #49? Why? What does your post #49 have to do with my question?

63 posted on 05/15/2006 7:27:19 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Coop
Read the notes on this forum.

It's not a bash of Sean, it's that he's not Rush in terms of intelluctually being able to break down an issue and put it on a shelf that all can reach.

Sean's addition is his Q factor, largely due to his Hannity Fox exposure. As for Reagan and North, No comment?

64 posted on 05/15/2006 7:31:57 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

I didn't say you were bashing Hannity. I asked you to provide evidence of your claim.


65 posted on 05/15/2006 7:34:21 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: OldFriend

Levin is funny in small doses, but I don't think I could take 3-4 hours a day of him. I've never heard Savage, but I've heard the horror stories, so I'll pass. As for Hannity, he's okay, but nowhere close to being in Rush or Laura Ingraham's league.


66 posted on 05/15/2006 7:34:31 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: Coop
And I responded to read the threads here. Even from some your allies.

It seems the only questions Sean knows how to ask are "So you hate the President" and "why do you hate America".

He was talking to Gingrich the other day on the TV show and wasn't even responding to the response Newt had given in the interview. It was purely the talking points.

Hey, I'm no fan of Newt, but Sean missed the target on that interview.

67 posted on 05/15/2006 7:40:52 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joebuck

The reality is, most people are conservative. Those with longer memories remember when there were three (3) stations to watch on TV, that was it. Many folks lives were considerably complicated by being certain to have parked their kiester in front of the tube at a given time, or miss Lawrence Welk entirely. In any case it was possible for almost 50 years to convince Americans their views were a minority, and made to feel guilty about them to boot.


68 posted on 05/15/2006 7:44:14 AM PDT by Freedom4US (a)
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To: joesbucks

Huh?


69 posted on 05/15/2006 7:44:55 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: OldFriend

God, I love this man! Rush has put it all together for a long time and when he's good, he exposes a whole Congress full of critters for what they really are, smelly politicians!


70 posted on 05/15/2006 7:45:37 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: Quilla
I don't see what the difficulty is. There must be quiet a few blow-hard dope heads lying around out there the left could use.
71 posted on 05/15/2006 7:54:03 AM PDT by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: Freedom4US
With all due respect for Mr. Limbaugh, it was inevitable that a talk-radio format would excel, (if it wasn't him, it would have been somebody else) in some ways he is just a tragic comedian, pointing out the absurdities of modern "liberal" policies. Point is, there is no shortage of material, so how hard is that?


With all due respect you do not know what you are talking about.

I was listening to Rush when he was a local talk show host in Sacramento. He was doing the one thing that local radio management did not want done, talk nationally. He refused to discuss local matters.

At the time Rush went National, the only national talk shows were late at night. None were during the day.

When Rush went national, no one believed in him, not even the stations he managed to sign up. The original deal was he had to do a local three hour show (in New York) before they allowed him to do his national three hours show, so in the beginning he was doing six hours a day.

On top of that, he wasn't getting paid. If I remember the situation, that was why he had the weekly RUSH TO EXCELLENT TOURS, this is where he earned the money to pay his bills.

Rush openned up a whole new world of talk radio, and sure it looks inevitable today, but not when he started.

72 posted on 05/15/2006 7:58:18 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Menehune56

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An excellent point. I had no idea that's how Prof. Walter Williams became a guest host.
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I don't have any special insight. I am only surmising how it came about based on bits and pieces of what has been said over the years. I think I heard the first time that Dr. Williams was on, and he was sure as green as any summer intern that AM broadcast stations sometimes use in the early morning hours where they can get experience when nobody is listening.


73 posted on 05/15/2006 7:58:19 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: robertpaulsen
Admittedly my #49 does not say that liberal politicians should get a pass from journalism - only that it is inevitable that they will. Journalists report bad news - inevitably. Liberals propose impractical solutions which reaffirm that the journalists are right to point out the problem. One hand washes the other, and the only people who get criticized are those who actually are responsible for getting things done.

Are oil prices high? Blame the people who, by producing oil and bringing it to market, are preventing the price from being even higher. And blame freedom, which allows people to buy cars and SUVs which use gasoline and allows people to go to the gas station and voluntarily pay the high price for gasoline. Do not blame the politicians who prevented ANWR drilling and offshore drilling, and nuclear power and the construction of new refineries.

The criticism is always on the responsible middle class, never of the rich who promote attacks on the middle class in the name of the poor and call it "liberalism." The rich in question being limosine liberals, including newspaper publishers.


74 posted on 05/15/2006 8:00:04 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Blueflag
Thanks...I have copied your post for my files.

What I don't understand is why would someone want to use lies to get power?? Once obtained, what do you have?....only lies.

Truth is much better.

75 posted on 05/15/2006 8:00:14 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I apologize if you misunderstood my posts. My only point, there was, and is, 50 years of pent-up general cussedness at conservative thought - which is the majority of Americans, being excluded from the national debate. So, it wasn't surprising that a good talk show host cleaned up. Not to me anyway. Consider that he capitalized on AM radio - a moribund medium before Rush came along if there was one, and caused much consternation amongst "liberals", even though they had/have a lock on major television outlets, academia, hollywood, local and state governments, etc. etc.


76 posted on 05/15/2006 8:03:01 AM PDT by Freedom4US (a)
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To: Quilla
So true, thats why republicans need to IMPORT multi millions of democrats as illegal and legal aliens.. The liberals(democrats/RINOs) are not converting them.. That and them(democrats) having aborted their next generation for decades.. Our republican officials are saving the democrat party.. for the faux war between republicans and democrats..

The President will speak more on that in his speach tonight..

77 posted on 05/15/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Quilla; All

I want to add two points I noticed when trying to give liberal radio a fair shot.

1. The liberal/Democratic base is significantly younger than the conservative/Republican group. Getting talk radio to look "cool" to a bunch of liberal 20-somethings is a losing battle, methinks.

2. They had NO content. The few times I flipped over, intending to listen and give it a chance I heard: A) Dead air, B) A gardening show (twice) and C) Two hosts talking about uninteresting events in the life of a celebrity I'm not familiar with.


78 posted on 05/15/2006 8:04:32 AM PDT by Shion (Jaded Southern Californian)
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To: Coop
I guess I missed Dr. Williams' rough debut, but I sure do enjoy listening to him.

I hear it! Dr. Williams gets the dubious honor of convincing me that economics is fun! (And I'm a 25 y/o punk rocker with lots of tattoos... I love the looks I get at the coffee shop when I'm reading a big fat economics book.)
79 posted on 05/15/2006 8:09:01 AM PDT by Shion (Jaded Southern Californian)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Rush openned up a whole new world of talk radio, and sure it looks inevitable today, but not when he started.
Socialism is defined as "government ownership of the means of production." The fallacy in that is that it takes what is produced as well as how it is produced as a given. If it is a given, it "was inevitable."

Such an analysis cannot survive any understanding of the real world, where nothing is quite as inevitable in prospect as present reality always seems in hindsight.

If socialism had been allowed to freeze "the means of production" - and what was produced - back in Karl Marx's day, we would all be wielding the hammers and sickles which seemed so properly emblematic of work in the nineteenth century rather than mostly working in air conditioned offices to which we commute in air conditioned automobiles. And we would be dying by age 55.


80 posted on 05/15/2006 8:15:09 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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