What's black and white and read all over and is more self-destructive than pre-9/11 thinking?

Jim Robinson, John Podhoretz, Richard Miniter, Madeleine Albright, hillary clinton, bill clinton | 5.14.06 | Mia T

[Mia T]

BTW, most, if not all, professional pols--even conservative ones--are creatures of self-service (and mediocrity) above all else.

We won't get what you are looking for unless and until we start electing citizen politicians. That's what the Founders had in mind when they set up this government.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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NEVER FORGET


The Man who predicted his own demise,

and the destruction of the World Trade Center in the process,

at the hands of Muslim fundamentalist extremists:



9/11 Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA, ..R.I.P.

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361


A Man who's so very dearly missed to this day.



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
..a RICK RESCORLA Co-Veteran of the 1st Major Battles of the Vietnam War 1965-66

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(Where RICK RESCORLA walked in Vietnam, exactly, 40 years ago - See 1st Picture)


NEVER FORGET

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[Edit35]

What's black and white and read all over, and dangerous as pre-9/11 thinking??

a bloody zebra who thinks like a registered Democrat??

[IronJack]

You'll need more than a bath if your moral purity results in clinton: the sequel.

I'm just wondering, what's the alternative to "moral purity"? Moral compromise? Moral corruption? Moral decay? Amorality? Do we "win" if we become the very objects we despise? If we're forced, through our fears, to embrace the very principles whose opposition defines us?

The message being sent to the Republicans is that they are not conservative enough. The LAST strategy they should adopt is the liberalization of their platform. If they don't run a conservative this time, I'll stay home. I won't actively participate in a fraud of that magnitude. And if we go down, at least I go down with my conscience clean.

It's the choice I've made. It's the choice I've been FORCED to make.

[IronJack]

We won't get what you are looking for unless and until we start electing citizen politicians.

Then let's start doing it! THAT ought to be our goal for '08, not the blind support of whatever suit carries the "R" behind its name.

That's what the Founders had in mind when they set up this government.

And the sooner we return to that model, the sooner we get back the government THEY intended.

[Mia T]

Of course ideology undergirds policy, but we mustn't hammer it over the voter's head. Not after 8 years of vile leftist demagoguery equating the right with the Islamofascist terrorists. (See post 7.)

Of course, no one is perfect. But there is a difference in magnitude and kind between normal human flaws and clinton corruption.

We mustn't talk in generalities. We must focus on THE CLINTONS' lack of character and competence and how that led, inexorably to 9/11.

[Mia T]

thanx ;)

[Mia T]

thank you :)

[Mia T]

;)

[Mia T]

We must resist fighting with each other. We WILL advance our causes. But first things first.

[Mia T]

first things first. ;)

[RKV]

Mia, Jimmy Carter's failure to declare war on Iran after our embassy was attacked was the actual cause of 9/11 (IMO). Ronnie's failure to attack Hezbollah (an Iranian proxy) after our Marines were killed in Lebanon was another failure. Clinton was only the latest of several US Presidents who didn't do what needed to be done in the Middle East. Iran is exerting influence on the countries around it because the US is not keeping Iran in check. Islamic imperialism is what we are fighting.

Blaming 9/11 on Clinton is a stretch. There are PLENTY of other, more germane reasons not to want Hitlery in the White House. But we STILL need to have a positive agenda which gives Americans a reason to vote FOR us, not just against the wicked witch of of New York, or Arkansas, or wherever.

[RKV]

Gotta go make breakfast for the kids. One final thought. What should we Republicans be doing to DESERVE to win the next election? Right now, larding up spending bills and paying lip service to the "War on Terror" seems to be about all we can muster. Not enough to earn us the job of governing (my 2 cents)...

[Mia T]

Blaming 9/11 on Clinton is a stretch. --RKV

Tell that to Richard Mininter. Or, for that matter, tell it to Madeleine Albright. The terrorists declared war on American during the clintons' watch. The terrorists attacked America during the clintons' watch. And the clintons did nothing. And the clinton failure was premeditated. Willful. Self-serving (or so they thought).

In my view, we can knock hillary out with a rape - terrorism one-two punch.

(The only real swing voter is the white woman. Missus clinton must get the white woman to win. But alas, the white woman, post-9/11, has turned red.)

 

 

UNITED 93:THE CLINTON-9/11 NEXUS
"We have to do it now. We know what happens if we just sit here and do nothing...."


ALBRIGHT INDICTS CLINTON FOR TERRORISM FAILURE
(and doesn't even know it)


MISSING CLINTON AUDIO! 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?'
(+Albright-Fulbright-Nobel TERRORISM revelations)


THE FAILED, DYSFUNCTIONAL CLINTON PRESIDENCY
(DECONSTRUCTING CLINTON'S HOFSTRA SPEECH) -- part1: clinton's "Brinkley" Lie


AFTERWORD: ON CLINTON SMALLNESS
(BRINKLEY MISSES THE POINT)


WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?


Carpe Mañana: The (bill + hillary) clinton Terrorism Policy
('Can we kill 'em tomorrow?')


IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY


BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE


THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY:
HOW DECADES OF CLINTON DOUBLE-DEALING COMPROMISED OUR NATIONAL SECURITY


WHY THE CLINTONS FAILED "TO CAPTURE OR KILL THE TALLEST MAN IN AFGHANISTAN"
(DID THEY REALLY WANT TO TAKE HIM OUT ANYWAY?)


'MAKE IT A RULE' -- PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR OSAMA WITH CLINTON and CO.
(HEAR HILLARY + BILL MAKE THEIR PITCH)


ON THE FICTIONALIZED MEMOIR (HEAR HILLARY IN SF)^{~PART TWO~}
THE (oops!) INADVERTENT ADMISSIONS OF HILLARY AND JANE IN SAN FRANCISCO


THE (oops!) INADVERTENT (TERRORISM) ADMISSIONS OF BILL + HILLARY CLINTON (HEAR HILLARY IN SF) ^{~PART ONE~}


WHY HILLARY IN THE OVAL OFFICE IS A NATIONAL-SECURITY NO-NO^{PART ONE}

[gatorbait]

We are in total agreement.

[gatorbait]

it's all or nothing

Enjoy nothing then . Your idealogical purity test seems to have blinded you to Reagen's political maxims.

[Badray]

Ditto bump to all of your comments, IronJack.

Contrary to your conclusion Mia, I would argue that we CAN survive another Democrat or another Clinton because they will galvanize us against a known and common enemy, but we cannot survive the rot that comes from a liberal or 'compassionate' Republican.

Too many of us were so glad to be rid of Clinton that they stopped paying attention to what the Republicans, including Bush, are doing to us. Some even give their blessing to things that Bush has done that would have caused us to take to the streets with pitchforks had Clinton done the same thing.

Think HillaryCare is dead? We are getting it piecemeal under Bush, starting with the greedy geezer drug bill. Bush signed MF - CFR. Would that have happened under Clinton or would we have fought tooth and nail against it?

The Kennedy Education bill is another outrageous example of giving away the store. There are others.

How do we advance our causes and values by arguing that we must accept what we hate to avoid what we despise?

Our problem is more than just 8 years of Clinton and goes back much further than that. Just as rotary phones and party lines are relics of a bygone era, the notion that we, and not the government, are responsible for ourselves is becoming antiquated and the GOP is, in large part, responsible.

Afraid of the 'third rail' Republicans are loathe to do anything but defend SS and other 'entitlements'. They care more about keeping their job than doing what's right.

Twice ruled to be unconstitutional, the Income Tax finally got its blessing 90 some years ago. First they set in motion the idea that government has a claim on the fruits of your labor. Then 30 years later, they established their claim to your money preemptively. The GOP used to fight against it, but now, even so called conservatives, embrace it as the normal course to fund government.

Abortion used to be whispered about just 40 years ago and was rare. Now that we've allowed the murder of 40 million babies, even Republicans think that it's okay and even encourage it.

My point is that the longer we accept these things and the longer we put our blessing on them, the sooner it will be when there will be no memory of when we cherished our liberty, treasured our soon to be born, and relied upon ourselves and family instead of the largesse from an oversized, super powerful government which will take from us what it needs to give us what they tell us we want. It's voting buying with funds from the public treasury and the GOP is as guilty now as the Dems now that we have 'compassion' as our official mantra.

No, Mia T, while I admire your efforts and your passion I cannot agree with your conclusion. We cannot cede our values any more in bits and pieces if we hope them to survive at all.

IronJack is right. We cannot accept a RINO as our nominee. It goes against our grain to vote against our values. We will fight to the death for our values but we will not commit suicide. We will all die. How we die is more important than if or when we do.

[Mia T]

You are confusing two issues.

The first issue is policy. As long as DC is run by the professional pol, we will have policy that serves... surprise... the professional pol. It doesn't matter if that pol is a Democrat or a Republican or a Bull Moose. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise. The answer is to begin fielding citizen-politicians. Like the Founders envisioned.

The second issue is the '08 election. (The '06 election will set the stage and is, therefore, almost as critical.) It is self-evident that a Democrat--and especially a clinton--would be fatal for America. Now is not the time for us to indulge our indignations.

Is it really asking too much to wait until we dispense with the clintons?

[Mia T]

Empirical evidence that there exists not one professional pol irrespective of political party or political philosophy who is not self-serving:

 

REDACTION LOOPHOLE: ACCESS TO THE BARRETT REPORT

 

by Mia T, 01.20.06  

he judges who redacted 120 pages of the Barrett report have, if not a sense of justice, a sense of humor. In their rulings, they provide a mechanism by which the people can see the redactions, but for which at least one honest, selfless, courageous member of Congress is required.

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