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To: Mo1
They either sign up and follow the (new) rules or they are automatically deported if caught

We have laws on the books that cover that now. Do we have the ability to enforce it? Not today. Are we willing to create the massive bureaucracy necessary to do it? I doubt it. Any attempt to have widescale deportations would invite reactions from the ACLU, La Raza, the Catholic church, the Dems, and the illegals who will demonstrate in even greater numbers. We will have a backlog of court cases.

Now the problem is .. enforcing the laws on a Local/City/State level .. because the Feds can't enforce the laws all on their own if the local level will not help

And who is going to pay for the costs associated with the enforcement? I agree we need such cooperation now instead of sanctuary cities. We have laws now that govern the treatment of illegal aliens. We really don't need new ones except to legalize the illegals. Problem solved--on paper.

281 posted on 05/14/2006 8:04:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
And who is going to pay for the costs associated with the enforcement?

By disallowing illegals all but emergency services, millions could be made up for enforcement. Illegals show up at hospitals for colds and leave the institution with the bills. That could be one way..

289 posted on 05/14/2006 8:07:45 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: kabar
We will have a backlog of court cases.

Agreed

And who is going to pay for the costs associated with the enforcement? I agree we need such cooperation now instead of sanctuary cities. We have laws now that govern the treatment of illegal aliens. We really don't need new ones except to legalize the illegals. Problem solved--on paper.

Without the help on the local/state level .. this mess will never be fixed

As for the sanctuary cities?? .. if they want to aid the illegals .. then cut off fed funding for health care/welfare/ etc. and let those cities/states pay for it

297 posted on 05/14/2006 8:10:26 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: kabar

How do we get hundreds of millions to pay taxes and put license plates on their cars? With enforcement and with incentives.

How did Mexico export all of these people? With incentives - bad incentives.

There were incentives that brought the population that is now here. We have to change those incentives. It won't work overnight, but we organize our society with incentives this is one more area where we need to agree to modify the incentives to more appropriately meet the needs of (Primarily) our fellow American citizens (especially the poorly educated and low skilled who are losing jobs to illegal aliens and those who are victims of crimes by violent immigrants), (Secondarily) those who seek to immigrate to America but are held back by bad laws and bureaucratic indifference and hostility, and (Thirdly) the illegal immigrants themselves who are risking their lives in a desert crossing and being exploited here.

With the subtle actions of incentives, the will of the majority (not "the ACLU, La Raza, the Catholic church, the Dems, and the illegals who will demonstrate in even greater numbers") can be enacted.


733 posted on 05/14/2006 3:24:27 PM PDT by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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970 posted on 05/15/2006 9:35:56 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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