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1 posted on 05/13/2006 3:19:38 PM PDT by george76
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her film-school boyfriend was gone

Not exactly the model of male responsibility here.

2 posted on 05/13/2006 3:22:03 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
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It is a group that often feels isolated, suffers higher-than-normal rates of depression and believes it carries a stigma in a culture that celebrates marriage.

Yes, it's *society's* fault that she feels isolated, not the "film school" loser she chose to get preggers with. < sigh >

3 posted on 05/13/2006 3:22:13 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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I believe that Seattle leads the USA in white, single motherhood.

And, there are mothers getting child support from boyfriends that are not the fathers of the child. In Washington, if your girlfriend with 2 kids moves in; and you allow it. If she stays for 30 days, then moves out; you may get hit with child-support even though the child is not 'yours'.

The way the courts intpret this, is when she moved in; you agreed to provide for the children. So, when she moved out; she gets to take a chunk of your paycheck until the kids are 18. There are instances of each child brining in 4 separate child-support payments; from unfortunate guys who thought they had a real relationship.

Ah, Liberalism ..... and people wonder why men do not want relationships.


4 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:20 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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"We've been told it's not OK to be a single mom."

Clearly she's not listening!

5 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:29 PM PDT by Drango (No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
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I know a number of women who have started off as single moms and then found a husband later. It needn't be a lifestyle. Besides the fact that there are single moms and there are single moms. Ones that got into that situation through unfortunate choices or circumstances but then made the best of it. And others who are welfare leeches and negligent parents. It's impossible to generalize.


6 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:50 PM PDT by blueminnesota
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It is a group that often feels isolated, suffers higher-than-normal rates of depression and believes it carries a stigma in a culture that celebrates marriage.

I am like SEW ashamed of my inconsiderate attitude that two people who pledge a commitment to one another and who seek to join their wills in a sacrificial covenant which can provide a secure and healthful environment in which children can grow assured of love and security (run on sentence alert!) is a good thing.

If I were more open-minded I would see that joining bodies without joining hearts and producing children with no thought for their health and well-being is JUST as GOOD, and possibly even BETTER than marriage because it shows a more independent and unconventional spirit.

I'm sorry you silly twit. We will try to help and to support women in your situation because we're reluctant to throw people overboard. But, guess what. You did a damn silly thing, as did the SOB who impregnated you. There SHOULD be a stigma attached to this.

grrrrr!

7 posted on 05/13/2006 3:27:14 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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These feminazis represent the end of our society as we know it. Their kiddies will grow up to be RATs like their moms. Tie this to the stagnation of our schools and to millions of Spanish speaking illegals and we have political and societal chaos.


9 posted on 05/13/2006 3:30:00 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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There used to be a name for girls who couldn't keep their knees together.


10 posted on 05/13/2006 3:33:33 PM PDT by digger48
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a culture that celebrates marriage

With no significant exceptions that I'm aware of, all cultures throughout history have celebrated marriage.

For the very simple reason that cultures which don't tend to collapse and disappear (or by conquered by cultures that do).

Anywho, I'd appreciate an example of a culture that was indifferent to marriage or that approved of "single motherhood." I suspect ours is more accepting of her situation than any other in history, and here she is complaining about oppression.

Just like the feminists. Most equality for women in history, and they spend all their time whining about the patriarchy.

12 posted on 05/13/2006 3:38:18 PM PDT by Restorer
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It's not ideal, by any means. But it's better than killing the kid, which is the socially accepted thing to do.


14 posted on 05/13/2006 3:41:51 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"Anderson's decision created obstacles many couples don't face -- two fewer hands to change diapers, feed the baby and give baths --"

Note that code word for her "choice" to not have an abortion. The idiot liberal who wrote this piece probably asked her if she considered abortion, but couldn't say directly that she considered her "choices" before deciding to have the baby instead of killing it.

31 posted on 05/13/2006 4:01:27 PM PDT by tom h
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Hey, I've got an idea! What about getting married married? Then have children???

Betcha never thought of that, huh!

33 posted on 05/13/2006 4:03:14 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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What woman needs strength from others when she showed no lack of power during the hip thrusting competition?


35 posted on 05/13/2006 4:04:42 PM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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"I certainly feel like it's written across my face," Anderson, 34, said.

"We've been told it's not OK to be a single mom."

If she aborted the baby and wore it around her neck, she would be treated as a hero in Seattle.


45 posted on 05/13/2006 4:28:15 PM PDT by LA Conservative (Al Gore in 2008 - The gift that keeps on giving)
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Thanks to george76 for the ping.


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54 posted on 05/13/2006 4:47:37 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi 2006 | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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Well, atleast she didn't abort and make it all look like she was perfect, when really she had murdered a child.


56 posted on 05/13/2006 4:52:20 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Call me a cold-hearted bastard, but I don't feel one iota of sympathy for any of them.

66 posted on 05/13/2006 5:12:46 PM PDT by Fintan (There once was a man from Nantucket...)
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"in a culture that celebrates marriage" -- she's kidding, right? Every famous celeb is having babies out of wedlock. Marriage is hardly celebrated. Maybe the stigma is hers and she is projecting. Or maybe it really IS Bush's fault.


69 posted on 05/13/2006 5:22:35 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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Funny...the PI didn't run a story on ME as a single mom (with 2 less hands etc..) when my husband was DEPLOYED for a year.
And I had TWO VERY LITTLE kids to raise all by myself.
(They were 5 WEEKS old and 3 years old)


Oh, that's right though, they don't need to help us.
We are JUST FINE because there CERTAINLY is no stigma attached to US (as a military family) here in the Seattle area
/Sarcasm


That is when I first became SO DAILY involved in FR...the Canteen supported our family LIKE CRAZY!!!
(now, if only anyone had lived close enough to help mow the LAWN ;-)
83 posted on 05/13/2006 5:56:13 PM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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I can never understand unplanned pregnancies. A simple 99 cent condom could have prevented it. Having said that, she's one tough cookie for keeping the baby. Married or unmarried, children are a lot of work. They also cost a great deal of money to raise. She could have saved herself a lot of grief by simply aborting it. But she chose to have it, and take on all the attendant responsibilities that go with it.


89 posted on 05/13/2006 6:29:40 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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