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Ideas to smooth D-M relations (Locals try to dictate Military Ops)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Carol Ann Alaimo

Posted on 05/13/2006 9:40:27 AM PDT by SandRat

New ideas are on the horizon for making Davis-Monthan Air Force Base a nicer neighbor.

From higher aircraft altitudes to different flight routes to annual town hall meetings, a civic committee is considering an array of suggestions and will present the most promising of them to the public next week.

The work of the Military Community Compatibility Committee represents one of most extensive efforts ever made to iron out conflicts that have arisen as urban growth surrounded the air base, one the city's largest employers.

The group has spent months trying to find workable solutions that will protect D-M while making things easier on the residents most affected by current and future military operations.

The committee is now hashing out its draft proposals, which will be presented at a public forum Wednesday. Final recommendations will follow after public feedback is compiled. The final report, expected in June, will include only "consensus recommendations" — proposals on which the entire committee agrees.

The final product will be sent to various levels of government and affected agencies, which then must decide which of the measures to adopt.

Some of the ideas being considered are:

* Redirecting some helicopter traffic to fly over railroad corridors and Interstate 10 rather than over the city center.

* Keeping aircraft as high as possible over the city during all phases of flight in order to reduce noise at ground level.

* Having more nighttime air traffic arrive and depart on D-M's southeasterly flight route, over the Rita Ranch area rather than the northwest, where many older homes have little soundproofing.

* A public health study that would investigate the potential impact of military operations on local residents.

* A clearer real estate disclosure system, so that home buyers are fully informed when they purchase properties affected by military aircraft noise.

* Annual town hall-type meetings at which the base commander would meet with the public to discuss concerns and present information.

* Upgrades to the Davis-Monthan Web site and to its hot line, which is now so overwhelmed with callers that some people who report noise problems do not get a response from the base.

Some of those ideas are still being debated and may not end up on the list of draft proposals at next week's meeting, said Tahnee Robertson, mediator for the group. Even when the final report comes out, Robertson said, some of the changes could require substantial government funding in order to move ahead.

The Air Force also would need to coordinate any flight route changes with the Federal Aviation Administration to avoid conflict with Tucson International Airport operations.

Despite those possible snags, some residents who live in existing high-noise zones say they have high hopes for the committee's work.

"I think this process will actually have some results," said Kirk Critton, vice president of the San Gabriel Neighborhood Association. He lives about a mile northwest of the air base and has attended many committee meetings as an observer.

Anita Scales, who also lives northwest of the base, in the Broadmoor-Broadway Village neighborhood, said just the fact that base officials are at the table with homeowner groups and community leaders "is momentous." "That's why I have to remain optimistic," said Scales, who also has been an observer at the meetings.

The committee's two dozen members represent an array of interests, including school boards, neighborhood groups, business leaders and city, county and state government. D-M has an advisory role.

The group was set up last year by the U.S. Institute for Environmental Conflict Resolution, which has mediated dozens of environmental disputes around the country, such as the effort to reduce noise from tourist aircraft at Grand Canyon National Park.

The institute is part of the Tucson-based Morris K. Udall Foundation, a federally funded entity that deals with environmental and tribal issues.

* Contact reporter Carol Ann Alaimo at 573-4138 or at calaimo@azstarnet.com.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: dm; ideas; liberals; military; opns; relations; restrict; smooth; tucson
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1 posted on 05/13/2006 9:40:33 AM PDT by SandRat
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Excuse me .. wasn't the base there before the housing encroached upon IT ..?? If so .. then people have no excuse. If you don't like the sound of jets - MOVE!!


2 posted on 05/13/2006 9:43:04 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
The committee's two dozen members represent an array of interests, including school boards, neighborhood groups, business leaders and city, county and state government. D-M has an advisory role.

Those whining, sniveling, property encroaching, cry babies! They won't be happy until D-M is closed and then they'll cry about lost jobs..... arrrrrrrggggg!!!!!!!

3 posted on 05/13/2006 9:43:13 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Excuse me, there's a war on...stuff it.


4 posted on 05/13/2006 9:44:04 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Liberals saying "We Support The Troops" is like OJ looking for the real killers.)
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Amazing! the same crap happened at mirimar naval air sdtation.

Idiots build homes in the flight path then complain about the jets.

newsflash! the base was there first!


5 posted on 05/13/2006 9:47:27 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: CyberAnt

Yep!

Once it was a 15 - 20 minute bus ride out of town. When I first got here in '72 there was nothing around D-M but pawn shops and bars along with a few strip-clubs. They built up around it knowing it was there bought homes right next to it knowing it was there did all the rest knowing full well it was there.

WHAT A BUNCH OF CRY BABY LIBERAL LOONS!!!


6 posted on 05/13/2006 9:47:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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sdtation=station

wow I really grrrrmangled that one!


7 posted on 05/13/2006 9:48:42 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Doctor Raoul

That's not how the Tucson Leftist Liberal Loons see it. Tucson is the Kool Blue Dot of the state.


8 posted on 05/13/2006 9:49:11 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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"Once it was a 15 - 20 minute bus ride out of town. When I first got here in '72 there was nothing around D-M but pawn shops and bars along with a few strip-clubs. They built up around it knowing it was there bought homes right next to it knowing it was there did all the rest knowing full well it was there."

They also built up into what was once a nice cactus filled & fairly secluded state or national park. You just about can't find Tucson anymore, it's inside something else.

I'm just wondering when they will demand that all those 'rusty old airplanes' be moved back to Goodyear to allow for more tract housing...
Oops, it's happening up north as well.

9 posted on 05/13/2006 9:54:45 AM PDT by norton
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* Having more nighttime air traffic arrive and depart on D-M's southeasterly flight route, over the Rita Ranch area rather than the northwest, where many older homes have little soundproofing.

Well, the least the federal government can do is soundproof these older homes for them… new appliances would be nice, and a couple of plasma tvs. /sarcasm

10 posted on 05/13/2006 9:58:32 AM PDT by auboy
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To: norton
Lieberals alway ruin stuff


11 posted on 05/13/2006 10:01:17 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Hey! Nutty Nagin isn't the Mayor here.... yet.


12 posted on 05/13/2006 10:02:49 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Better than that was that the people west of Miramar celebrated when the Tomcats were moved out and the Marines moved in, thinking it would be quieter. They were surprised to find out how loud those helicopters and hornets are.

The same thing has happened at Oceana in Va Beach. Originally the base was out in the middle of nowhere well south of the city, but the city has built up around the base. Now the Navy is considering closing the base, which is the largest employer in the area. I think they should close up shop and move. The weather there sucks, the flying areas and ranges suck, and it seems the city doesn't want us there anyway.

13 posted on 05/13/2006 10:11:45 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit
the people west of Miramar celebrated when the Tomcats were moved out and the Marines moved in, thinking it would be quieter. They were surprised to find out how loud those helicopters and hornets are.

Ha Ha Ha ;-)

Whop whop whop whop

14 posted on 05/13/2006 10:15:19 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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you know sumpthin? I loved the A10's at hauchuca

hawks and warthogs in the skys. beautiful


15 posted on 05/13/2006 10:18:14 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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16 posted on 05/13/2006 10:19:40 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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"urban growth surrounded the air base, one the city's largest employers."


Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Texas would be happy to host this base. We love our military.


17 posted on 05/13/2006 10:20:02 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (This space for hire...)
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Hey! Nutty Nagin isn't the Mayor here.... yet.

The nutcase we have is enough thank you as is the unreal city council.

18 posted on 05/13/2006 10:23:38 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: SandRat
LOL. Nagin may be lookin' for a home if he loses the runoff. He has a plan, and Arizona is above sea level.
19 posted on 05/13/2006 10:25:36 AM PDT by auboy
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To: Don Corleone

whos the mayor there now? linda rondstat? ;-)


20 posted on 05/13/2006 10:26:11 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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