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Pastor charged with spanking girl
Chicago Daily Herald ^ | May 11, 2006 | unattributed

Posted on 05/12/2006 8:48:18 PM PDT by Tom87

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To: loboinok

I'm sorry for some reason I misread that it took place over three years. Still 3 months of repeated spanking sessions is extremely odd


41 posted on 05/13/2006 12:40:22 AM PDT by RHINO369
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To: Tom87

Spanking? Paddling? Beating?


A news article in the Chicago Tribune--"Minister beat girl with stick, cops say"--indicates that there were welts and bruises on the girl's legs and buttocks!


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0605120154may12,1,4608164.story?p...


42 posted on 05/13/2006 12:53:11 AM PDT by Hugh Moran II
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To: tallhappy
60 years in prison for spanking? We are messed up.

You certainly are.

Try reading the story again in daylight.

Hint. The preacher was arrested for a misdemeanor (usual max 12 months, may vary in some jurisdictions.) The child molester is the one that faces 60 years.

43 posted on 05/13/2006 1:05:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: RHINO369

"Still 3 months of repeated spanking sessions is extremely odd"

I agree, IF there is any truth to the article.

I might have missed it myself, if it weren't for the fact that I pay much closer attention to threads and posts concerning Christians.

The bashing of Christians in particular and religion in general, seems to be the norm these days.


I'm not saying the pastor is or isn't guilty.

I did notice though that title of the article makes the "spanking" by a pastor to be of more importance than the 2+ years of alledged sexual assault by the relative.

I also noticed that in the first sentence it is refered to as spanking, but in the second sentence it turns into "beating".

Two thirds of the article focuses on the pastor while one third focuses on the molestor.

If you review the comments, you will see that most of them focused on this as well.

Just making observations.

Regards,
Lobo


44 posted on 05/13/2006 1:09:17 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: tallhappy

60 years in prison for spanking?
We are messed up.



The years are a bit much and he won't get that, but I don't excuse what a Pastor did. I mean a 30 year old is spanking a 13 year old every Wednesday. That is disgusting. Why not go to the parents and give you opinion. I would beat the crap out of this guy for hitting my kid. He has no business hitting somebody. I find this situation very dirty.


45 posted on 05/13/2006 2:27:29 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: gondramB

This sorry excuse for a "pastor" should be thrown in jail.
There he will become the "bitch" for a "Big Bubba". That's justice!


46 posted on 05/13/2006 8:12:34 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: Alter Kaker
Because they started in 2003, when she was ten years old.

Actually last year when she was twelve. Bur put him in prison anyway

47 posted on 05/13/2006 8:40:05 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to Help)
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To: Hugh Moran II

Thanks, Hugh. I did read their statement of faith. However, the word at issue was not "fundamental" but "fundamentalist," a word the liberal media uses to suggest fanaticism but few churches would use to describe themselves.


48 posted on 05/13/2006 10:16:59 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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>>This sorry excuse for a "pastor" should be thrown in jail.
There he will become the "bitch" for a "Big Bubba". That's justice!<<

I don't wish rape on anybody.

But forcibly spanking a child as punishment for reporting being abused is sick. And if was for the pastor's gratification its sicker.

What did Gore Vidal say "I'm all for bringing back the birch, but only between consenting adults."


49 posted on 05/13/2006 10:22:17 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: Hugh Moran II
Spanking? Paddling? Beating?

A news article in the Chicago Tribune--"Minister beat girl with stick, cops say"--indicates that there were welts and bruises on the girl's legs and buttocks!

So let me get this straight, if it leaves welts and bruises it can't be called a spanking? Look up "spank" in the dictionary and you'll find no such exclusions. Hence, the distinction between *mild* spanking and *severe* spanking.

Note also that in the text of that article you cite, the more neutral term "discipline" is used.

50 posted on 05/13/2006 12:40:37 PM PDT by Tom87
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To: loboinok
I did notice though that title of the article makes the "spanking" by a pastor to be of more importance than the 2+ years of alledged sexual assault by the relative.

I think the importance is not the spanking itself but that it was being used as a deterrent against making sex abuse allegations. Plus it's more of a curiosity in contrast to the molestation, which sad to say is fairly common almost to the level of "Dog bites man".

51 posted on 05/13/2006 12:54:11 PM PDT by Tom87
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To: BlackElk

BuMp.


52 posted on 05/13/2006 2:01:33 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Tom87
According to its web site, First Missionary Baptist Church is a fundamentalist church unaffiliated with any Baptist organization.

Sounds familiar. Chances are that, on the church's sign, the font size used for the "pastor's" name will equal or exceed that used for the church's name...

53 posted on 05/13/2006 9:08:04 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: tallhappy

The molester was the one facing 60 years.

The pastor is messed up, yep. On the one hand we have churches where anything goes, and the saints get trampled by the world, so in the name of 'tolerance' the pastors allow it to happen... and on the other hand we have churches that are uber-authoritarian and abusive. God help us.


54 posted on 07/05/2006 9:01:33 AM PDT by Terriergal (Erik Palladino for Ding Chavez in R6!)
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To: Tom87

This girl is going to need a LOT of counseling...IF she'll trust it.

Let's see. Raped by a family member, betrayed by even MORE family members, forced to endure abuse by the hands of a "religious" figure...sheesh, it's literally going to take an act of God for this poor child not to turn her back on Him entirely, thanks to the actions of a bunch of self-serving hypocrites in denial.

As someone who endured "paddlings" in an evangelical school at the hands of a psycho principal, this story makes me want to puke.


55 posted on 07/05/2006 9:07:17 AM PDT by Kieri (Dump "Dangerously Incompetent" Debbie, Support Keith Butler for Senate)
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To: Tom87

Someone should post a pic of the Monty Python & The Holy Grail scene of the women in "Anthrax" castle talking to Sir Gallahad here.


56 posted on 07/05/2006 9:10:06 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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