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The Anchoress Blog ^ | 5/12/06 | The Anchoress

Posted on 05/12/2006 8:40:49 PM PDT by M. Thatcher

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To: Constantine XIII
"I'm just pointing out that such words are often spoken by those of, shall we say, low intellectual standards."

People with "low intellectual standards" are those who naively do and think as they are told.

Big business and the Neo Cons are not God's gift to mankind. They like any other venture dreamed up man will lead to disaster if not held in check. They have their agenda and as far as they are concerned, you (or we) are just another tool to be used.

So, I ask you again, what explains the border being left unprotected for these many years? It's not an accident. I know why the liberals want it that way, but why do our own people want it that way??? There has to be a reason. Can you think of anything else. I would like to know. We are all being screwed by the people we put in office and I would like to know why - whats their big plan?
181 posted on 05/14/2006 10:36:04 PM PDT by Herakles (Liberals are stone stupid and proud of it!)
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To: Herakles

Because Mexico isn't North Korea, and no one really made a big fuss about it until about four years ago?


182 posted on 05/14/2006 10:39:12 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII
"Because Mexico isn't North Korea, and no one really made a big fuss about it until about four years ago?"

I go back to 1992 when NAFTA was supposed to stem the flow across the border. Then there was the Amnesty in '86 when the illegals lined up to get their citizenship. So, my perspective goes back further than 4 years.

Listen, someone or something is making money or political capital out of this, and I don't like some SOB, or some group with a simple minded philosophy like spreading freedom in the world by opening the gates our country to the Mongol hoard. I've dealt with people like this before, and you are right, they are not bright and they don't care about you or me, they only care about what it's going to do for them.
183 posted on 05/14/2006 10:54:37 PM PDT by Herakles (Liberals are stone stupid and proud of it!)
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To: nopardons
First of all, telling me that I'll "be pushing up the daisies soon", is not only offensive, but patently ridiculous; not to mention a way of wishing me dead. You have no idea how old I am, what state of health I am in, nor the fact that most people, in my family, live to a very old age. I'll probably out live you.

As for the 'daisies'comment...No such thing! I hope you survive to a hundred and five, and the last voice you hear is Sinatra's. You are one of the greatest posters on not only FR,but in all of Internet history. I'm just saying the effects of these issues will be felt by the generations to come.

Without cable T.V. and without many nationally heard Conservative radio stations, the concern over illegal immigration, in 1968, was far more legitimate, than the whipped up hysteria of today.

We will have to agree to disagree on that point. With more people getting their news from talk radio and cable TV, issues that would otherwise be 'suppressed' by the MSM (not specifically immigration, but Chinagate, Filegate, monicagate, CFR, etc) will be brought out in the open. More people are informed of the stuff 'they' DON'T want us to know about than ever, thanks to the radio/web.

the very REAL, wide spread concern over the illegals, back then, were even MORE relevant, real, and non-hysteric driven.

When 5,000,000 people are "whipped up" by an issue, as opposed to 50,000 people "genuinely" (whatever that means) angered by an issue, all the better. I will take the 5,000,000.

Bob Grant and Joe Pyne, by the mid '80s, had been not only true Conservative legends, for at least two decades, but far more powerful, in local political matters, than Rush ever will be, on a national scale and those two men, were pretty big on the national level, as well.

Not to diminish the influence of these two all-time greats, but if you were to ask, say Michael Harrison of Talkers magazine, other media experts, or (quite begrudgingly) members of the MSM, the evidence points to Rush not only single-handedly saving the AM band, but spurring the growth of talk radio to the juggernaut it is today. Without Rush, would we be arguing on FR right now at 7 hours 'till worktime?

And you've left out quite a few other, quite important/influential radio and T.V. Conservative names.

Do you want me to list the 100 or so columnists, 300+ talk radio hosts, 100 or so authors individually? Come on, thop being thilly.

184 posted on 05/14/2006 11:04:03 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (History is not written by those who win wars, but by those who win the war for the History Dept.)
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To: Constantine XIII
Thank you for reading the long and in some ways exaggerated piece. I call your attention to these passages which reveal how massive immigration - Newt Gingrich just yesterday on Meet The Press said the number might be approaching 50 million - fits into the left's modus operandi.

Have you seen the long piece by Broune, to which I can no longer find a good citation, which deals expresslz with the problelms posed by Legal immigration by Muslims in Britain?

Here are the quotes for others on this thread to consider:

Gramsci insisted that alliances with non-Communist leftist groups would be essential to Communist victory. In our time, these would include radical feminist groups, extremist environmental organizations, so-called civil rights movements, anti-police associations, internationalist-minded groups, liberal church denominations, and others [ Read La Raza, Ford and Rockerfeller Foundations etc ]. Working together, these groups could create a united front working for the destructive transformation of the old Judeo-Christian culture of the West.

I have never intimated the threat is of a conventional miltary one, quite the contrary:

A revolution that could not be resisted by force.

It is important to realize that this movement, 'cultural Marxism,' exists, understand where it came from, and what its objectives were - the complete destruction of Western Civilization in America. That is, these 'cultural Marxists' aimed to destroy, slowly but surely from the bottom up, the entire fabric of American Civilization.

1. Critical Theory and its integral group of sub-theories by its very essence consists of destructive criticism of the social order to foment a non-violent social revolution in America

8. The inversion of beliefs means the belief in the authority of those of the higher order to set and enforce standards of thinking and behavior for the society is dissolved in favor of belief in the authority of those in the lower order to think and do as they please.

9. This inversion of the structure of authority really means an inversion of the moral order and so leads to disorder, chaos, and social disintegration.

As Richard Bernstein made clear in his book on multiculturalism,41"...the Marxist revolutionary process for the past several decades in America has centered on race and sex warfare rather than class warfare" as in earlier times. This constitutes a grand scheme to restructure American society. As the social revolutionaries readily proclaim, their purpose is to destroy the hegemonic white male power structure. In order to accomplish this, all barriers to the insertion of women and minorities into this power structure are to be broken down by all means available [add urestrained, uncontrolled massive immigration to this mix, shake well, and bake and you have a very potent series of weapons for the left]

Most Americans do not yet realize that they are being led by social revolutionaries who think in terms of the destruction of the existing social order in order to create a new social order in the world. These revolutionaries are the New Age elite Boomers, the New Totalitarians.44 They now control every public institution in the United States of America. Their 'quiet' revolution, beginning with the counter-culture revolution of their youth, is nearly complete. It was based on the intellectual foundation of the 'cultural Marxists' of the Frankfurt School.

185 posted on 05/14/2006 11:12:26 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, Attack..... Bull Halsey)
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To: Captainpaintball
I hate Frank Sinatra; always have done...except for two of his movies.

Sucking up to me, wont stave off my wrath; rather, it WILL only encourage more of it.

Most issue, no matter WHAT they are, have repercussions for generation after generation. Platitudes are no substitution for actual thought.

As to the rest, it is far to late for me to go further into the historical relevancy, or not, of Rush vis-a-vis any other personality, on the American populace's actions, both political and other. However, I suggest that you look into figures such as Father Coughlin and then move back, pre radio days, to those who influenced and stirred people in pre modern/electric days.

186 posted on 05/14/2006 11:55:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: M. Thatcher

Ah, well…I never did think of myself as a conservative, anyway…more like a classical liberal without a home…

I'm right there with this author.

187 posted on 05/14/2006 11:59:44 PM PDT by rdb3 (Honey, you keep that up and it's whatever you want it to be. --Family Guy)
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To: Captainpaintball

I don't think Mxico's President is dictating policy to this President, Depnding on the 2006 election, he won't be to anyone else.
We'll see, man, I have a feeling Dubya is about to do a rope a dope, like he always does.


188 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:15 AM PDT by gatorbait
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