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Victor Davis Hanson: In the Eye of the Beholder. Imagine if we’d reported on WWII the way we do now
NRO ^ | May 12, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/12/2006 4:41:46 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: Tolik

Great use of satire by VDH.


61 posted on 05/12/2006 9:47:44 AM PDT by unionblue83
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To: 359Henrie
LOL! 8-)

No, but that was a funny reply. He was some young OS - PO2.

62 posted on 05/12/2006 9:50:11 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

OS's, my second guess. Plankowner AD-44


63 posted on 05/12/2006 9:58:07 AM PDT by 359Henrie (We cannot deport 12 million can we? Si, se puede!)
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To: Tolik

Another great V.D. Hanson touche!


64 posted on 05/12/2006 10:12:32 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: 7thson
They now have a small sub you can tour as well as the Battleship Missouri on Ford Island. Way, way better than before. Still gives you a chills when they take you out to the Memorial.

Yep, the USS Bowfin...wifey and I were humbled at the hardships those submariners had to endure, given the extremely cramped and claustrophobic quarters.

The Missouri has been added since our last trip, so haven't seen that...for sure will do so, if we ever get back to Hono.

65 posted on 05/12/2006 10:21:14 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: Valin

Michelle Malkin does a good job of showing the efforts of the Imperial Japanese to influence and subvert US policy.


66 posted on 05/12/2006 11:09:51 AM PDT by unionblue83
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To: Valin

Sorry, I meant in her book, "In Defense of Internment:..."


67 posted on 05/12/2006 11:11:04 AM PDT by unionblue83
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To: billbears
Imagine if Vic got back to his hack treatment of ancient history instead of incessant ramblings on something he has no clue about (of course he's not always that good on the ancient history either). Vic has made it evidently clear his treatment of historical fact outside of ancient history is questionable at best

Can you cite any specifics in the posted article to support this opinion?

68 posted on 05/12/2006 11:16:32 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: 359Henrie
Plankowner ACSC Wallops Island, Va

Plankowner CG 65

69 posted on 05/12/2006 11:19:31 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

Cool. The only time I get underway anymore is a 2 day tuna trip.


70 posted on 05/12/2006 12:21:51 PM PDT by 359Henrie (We cannot deport 12 million can we? Si, se puede!)
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To: Jim Noble
You would have to imagine that they did not intern enemy aliens who had managed to attain US nationality.

Which one are you advocating?

A. Rounding up all Muslim U.S. citizens
B. Rounding up U.S. Muslims from certain countries (Saudi, Egypt, etc.)
C. None of the above, just spouting off.

If the answer is A or B, what benefit do you expect that to provide us, and why haven't these dangerous populations struck here on our soil anytime in the 4 and a half years since 9/11? Please also discuss why, if it's such a grand idea, FDR didn't do it to the Germans and Italians, and why we didn't have numerous sabotage incidents committed by Germans and Italians left running loose.

You would have to imagine that instead of celebrating the Carson Robinson Orchestra's version of "We're Gonna Have to Slap the Dirty Little Jap" that President Roosevelt had them arrested for hate speech.

Please cite any person who has been arrested or censored by the administration for criticizing Islam or advocating any particular war strategy.

71 posted on 05/12/2006 12:44:44 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: OXENinFLA

bttt


72 posted on 05/12/2006 12:46:28 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: billbears

Why don't you be more specific? Where does Hanson make a mistake here about WWII? Where does he unfairly criticize war critic's treatment of current ops?


73 posted on 05/12/2006 12:48:26 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: Tolik

Brilliant writing. It rings of a contemporary CNN or MSNBC (or you fill in the letters) nightly news cast!


74 posted on 05/12/2006 12:53:25 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: melancton
But what he says gets the patriotic juices flowing, so it doesn't matter what the facts are.

Welcome to FR. Please see my post 73 and respond to it.

75 posted on 05/12/2006 12:54:54 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: Valin
And so did the British. The book Desperate Deception outlines how British MI5 agents infiltrated both Harris and Gallup polling organizations and jimmied the polls to make it look like there was more support for war than really existed.

In Patriot's History of the U.S. we give FDR fairly high marks for going as far as he could to prepare the U.S. for an inevitable war, while at the same time resisting British incursions such as this one. I think 1940-1942 was FDR's "greatest hour," and that certainly the man had fallen off dramatically by late 1944.

76 posted on 05/12/2006 12:56:04 PM PDT by LS
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To: cgbg

The only good murtha is a defeated and shamed murtha


77 posted on 05/12/2006 12:56:16 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: billbears

I'm a modern U.S. historian, and I find his treatment of modern history pretty damn accurate---much better than yahoo Freeper neoConfederates who think that only happy slaves existed in the South. If only all historians were as accurate in dealing with war issues as Hanson.


78 posted on 05/12/2006 12:57:26 PM PDT by LS
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To: billbears

IMHO, it is necessary to quell dissent in all wars. It is the nature of war, and survival. If you don't like surviving, move.


79 posted on 05/12/2006 12:58:16 PM PDT by LS
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To: ErnBatavia
Yep, the USS Bowfin...wifey and I were humbled at the hardships those submariners had to endure, given the extremely cramped and claustrophobic quarters.

A Pearl Harbor survivor who was in subs the whole war once told me he appreciated my service. It's not like I expected the guy to tell me to get bent or something, you understand, but for a moment I was stunned speechless in humility that this man would consider my four years of turning wrenches in SAC to be worth his commendation. One of the great moments of my life.

80 posted on 05/12/2006 12:58:27 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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