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To: Sharks; Spiff; dirtboy; hedgetrimmer; Liz; Paul Ross; EternalVigilance; A. Pole; Alberta's Child; ..
Theories and opinions are like you know what...everybody has one...

So heres mine.

I think there's going to be a lot of TALK regarding an immigration bill, but NO ACTUAL VOTE on one...before the November election.

To understand why...you need to start thinkin' like those deal makin', finaglin' guys in DC.

The majority of Americans in BOTH parties don't want a guest worker amnesty bill, they merely want the present laws enforced, and the border secured. Having an actual vote is way too risky for those pols who are up for reelection...so there wont be a vote.

In opposition however, there is an unusually broad / strange bedfellow coalition of special interest groups, advocacy groups, Fortune 500 companies, left wing / communist / socialist front organizations, wealthy George Soros clones....etc...etc.... all of whom WANT an amnesty / guest worker bill. I think that the threat of large class action suits brought against flagrant violators, the calls for stiff fines and jail time..and even talk of RICO prosecutions and fines..has scared some of the big guys.

Its all about cheap labor, large job shops, depressed wages, cultural instability, growing a new entitlement class, a new Great Society structure...you name it...each group has their own interests in this legislation.

So...the pols will try to have their cake...and eat it too...keep those big campaign donations coming in, keep their extreme activist base elements happy...and keep their general constituents happy too...in theory.

AFTER the election...all bets are off IMO.

I think a deal of sorts regarding the general outline of this legislation was actually reached...between the WH, the Gang of 14,(most notably McCain), and Reid, Kennedy, and other key Democrats, way in advance of all this hoopla.

I think the furor over the protests, and the phone calls caused these guys to hold off, and 'stratergerize' a bit...in those closed door sessions that Kyl, Cornyn, Sessions and others were NOT invited to.

My hope is that Pubs like Sessions, Coburn, and Kyl in the Senate, and a whole host of folks in the House will somehow kill or filibuster this bill...somehow...someway.
78 posted on 05/11/2006 12:33:36 PM PDT by Dat Mon (Weldon, Shaffer, Philpott.......Men of Honor)
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To: Dat Mon

I think that's a pretty good theory. And I also think at some point our current crop of Washington politicians will have to make a decision between the monied interests who give them campaign cash and the interests of the voters who put them into office. So far, they haven't had to make that choice, and that is largely how we got to where we are today.


79 posted on 05/11/2006 12:36:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Dat Mon
......the threat of large class action suits brought against flagrant violators, the calls for stiff fines and jail time..and even talk of RICO prosecutions and fines.....has scared some of the big guys.....

Time to play hardball with government officials and public employees. We are getting the word get out that WE, THE PEOPLE, know the ins and outs of our laws, and we are prepared to act, if, and when, it becomes necessary. These suckers are going to know we will not tolerate lettuce pickers screwing over our rights. The government of the US is our government, and we intend to preserve it.

Here's one way they will get the message. Keep in mind that the power of this initiative does not depend entirely on enforcement, but on letting it get out we know where the bodies are buried.

NOTE WELL: it's best we not to go direct to the slimeballs in office---since they will only coverup the evidence. There are enough oversight and L/E agencies that will do the work for us.

ESTABLISHED FACT

Elected officials, and government employees who handle the public purse, are subject to a higher standard of law than ordinary citizens. They serve under stricter rules, and must abide by specific laws. Every elected and appointed government official, and government employee---in their capacity as fiduciaries of public monies---are required, by law, to be bonded by state bonding insurance carriers. The express purpose of bonding government officials and employees is to protect the public's money. Each state sets their own regulations, and selects a bonding insurance carrier.

Public entities that mandate bonding include: Municipalities, counties, townships (government employees of school districts, licensing agencies, and the like), ambulance districts, volunteer fire departments, community college districts, public universities, transit authorities, landfills, sewage treatment facilities, public works maintenance facilities, airports.

IMPACT

Taxpayers' concerns center on instances when elected and appointed public officials use government agencies fraudulently, misuse tax dollars to allow illegals to get government benefits and school subsidies, voting rights, auto licenses, building permits, welfare, food stamps, health care, and other government benefits, and the like using false documenation. These are examples of fiduciary negligence by a bonded government employee, and would violate the state's bonding regulations, and the carrier's bonding requirements.

SUMMATION

MISUSING THE PUBLIC ASSETS OF GOVERNMENT---ALLOWING ILLEGAL ALIENS TO USE FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTATION TO OBTAIN SCHOOL SUBSIDIES, GOVERNMENT BENEFITS, DRIVERS' LICENSES, VOTING RIGHTS IS FIDUCIARY NEGLIGENCE BY A BONDED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL. GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES WHO MISUSE PUBLIC AGENCIES AND PUBLIC FUNDS WOULD INCUR FINES OR IMPRISONMENT UNDER BONDING RULES.

FOLLOW-UP (what to look for)

Now, if a bonded government employee OR ELECTED OFFICIAL had previous financial problems---perhaps a bankruptcy or a job loss for financial improprieties, etc, that would preclude bonding---and if they failed to reveal the info to bonding agents, that would subject them to legal penalties for filing false applications.

Public officials with past financial problems who do not qualify for bonding would have to be tossed out of office.

If it is determined a public official failed to apply for bond coverage, he/she has broken the law, and is subject to an actionable offense.

Now, say government funds were stolen and the public official had failed to get bond coverage; the state would have no way to recover that money other than restitution through a criminal prosecution.

Public officials who lied on bonding applications might be subjected to fines or imprisonment.

110 posted on 05/11/2006 2:45:07 PM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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