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1 posted on 05/11/2006 10:25:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Qwest, has refused to turn over records to the program,

Qwest, preferred telecommunication carrier of Jihadists.

2 posted on 05/11/2006 10:27:58 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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I'm guessing this reporter doesn't think there are al-Qaida/terrorist cells in the US


3 posted on 05/11/2006 10:29:04 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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I should have put a Barf Alert up.

It's a lot of twaddle and hype and hysterics over an issue that is being played for political propaganda purposes only.

This kind of information is some of the most boring stuff in the world,, if folks really buy into their being harmed in the least by the dissection of the call records,, very few even know what the heck they are or comprise to start with.


4 posted on 05/11/2006 10:30:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Bush was clearly furious with the Main Puke Press for this latest bit of treason.
9 posted on 05/11/2006 10:40:13 AM PDT by pabianice
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Our intelligence activities strictly target al-Qaida and their known affiliates," Bush said. "We're not mining or trolling through the personal lives of millions of innocent Americans

Sure sound like a denial to me. The ONLY people claiming it wasn't are the pro Terrorist propagandists in the Junk Media and their Lords and Masters at the Democrat National Committee.

11 posted on 05/11/2006 10:43:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yes, I AM Conservative. The Political Center is for the uninformed and cowardly)
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This news must be scaring the heck out of jihadists...the Feds have lots of trails they can follow back for 4+ years.
16 posted on 05/11/2006 10:56:34 AM PDT by syriacus (WHERE has Geo. Clooney been for ALL the years that Franklin Graham has been helping the Sudanese?)
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The question is whether there is judicial oversight while the executive branch collects data? If no, then this may be a constitutional issue.


19 posted on 05/11/2006 11:00:34 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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that the National Security Agency was collecting records of tens of millions of ordinary Americans' phone calls.

Well, I will confirm the fact that they "are not collecting" the calls records of every phone call made by three of the four major communications carriers.

Those records are "being provided" by the three major carriers, all of which have already spoken on the legality of the process.

It is a common process to provide these records to police departments and district and country attornies and state attorney generals for a multitude of reasons.

The carrier that does not provide calls records is out there in Colorado and provides services to the loony Northwest.

By the way, you can Google "phone records" and find providers that will sell you these records.

You can also go to AMERICAblog, that just bought General Wesley Clark's cell phone records for $89.95.

AMERICAblog
25 posted on 05/11/2006 11:14:21 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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The BushBots are replicating. Run for your lives!


27 posted on 05/11/2006 11:15:51 AM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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Bush said any domestic intelligence-gathering measures he's approved are "lawful," and he says "appropriate" members of Congress have been briefed.

Does Harry Reid have another handwritten letter filed stating his opposition while publicly playing the suprised law maker?

38 posted on 05/11/2006 11:38:58 AM PDT by torchthemummy ("Patriotism...means looking out for yourself by looking out for your countryā€¯ - Calvin Coolidge)
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Just curious, how would folks feel if instead of phone companies, it was gun dealers that were being asked to turn over there sales records that would be reviewed only to target al-Qaida and their known affiliates?


41 posted on 05/11/2006 11:50:28 AM PDT by NC28203
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Privacy 'fiercely protected' as US scours phone records: Bush
AFP

Stephanie Griffith

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US government has monitored tens of millions of US phone records in a massive anti-terrorism effort, US media reported, as President George W. Bush insisted that Americans' privacy is "fiercely protected" under his administration.

The president made his statement following a report in the USA Today newspaper that the National Security Agency, a US military department, has tracked the domestic phone calls of tens of millions of Americans.

Without confirming or denying the existence of the program, Bush asserted that US intelligence is not "mining or trolling" through the lives of Americans, but rather, attempting "to intercept the communications of people with known links to Al-Qaeda and related terrorist organizations."

After the September 11 attacks, he authorized the NSA to intercept international communications of people with "known links" to Al-Qaeda and other terrorist networks, Bush said.

"After September the 11th, I vowed to the American people that our government would do everything within the law to protect them against another terrorist attack," the US leader said in brief remarks before departing Washington for events later Thursday in Mississippi.

"If Al-Qaeda or their associates are making calls into the United States or out of the United States, we want to know what they're saying," said the president, who added that the efforts appear to have paid off.

"So far, we've been very successful at preventing a new attack on our soil," Bush said.

The US president also gave assurances "the privacy of ordinary Americans is fiercely protected," as the surveillance activities continue.

"We're not mining or trolling through the personal lives of millions of innocent Americans," he said.

Nevertheless, the revelations unleashed a new barrage of criticism from those who question the scope and the legality of the domestic phone record monitoring, and another highly-criticized secret domestic eavesdropping program uncovered late last year.

"Our government must have every effective and legal tool needed to fight terrorism," said one longtime critic, Senator Harry Reid, Democratic leader in the Senate, in a statement Thursday.

"Unfortunately, the American people have less and less confidence that the administration has an effective strategy for waging the war on terrorism or being candid about its actions," Reid said.

Bush insisted Thursday, as he has in the past, that all intelligence activities he has authorized are "lawful" and have been explained in advance to "appropriate members of Congress."

The White House came under intense pressure after revelations back in December that US communications abroad had been intercepted without the usual required search warrant.

Advocates of that program, including General Michael Hayden, Bush's nominee to head the CIA, insist that it was lawful, even though it circumvents a law requiring the government to obtain warrants from a special court to conduct electronic surveillance of US persons.

Hayden and other supporters of the surveillance assert that had such a program been in place before the 9/11 attacks, many of the hijackers likely would have been detected, and the operation possibly thwarted.

While the eavesdropping program described by the New York Times late last year affected thousands of US citizens, the program outlined Thursday in USA Today detailed an NSA database of telephone records of tens of millions of US phone customers.

The newspaper quoted sources familiar with the program as saying the NSA launched the secret program shortly after the September 11 attacks, to analyze calling patterns in a bid to detect terrorist activity.

It said the plan does not involve listening in to phone conversations but consists of records of phone calls made across town or cross-country.

The newspaper said names, addresses and other forms of personal identification are not part of the information being shared, but it noted that the details can be easily obtained by cross-checking the records against other databases.


A computer workstation bears the National Security Agency logo inside the Threat Operations Center at Fort Meade, Maryland, in January 2006. The US government has monitored tens of millions of US phone records in a massive anti-terrorism effort, US media reported, as President George W. Bush insisted that Americans' privacy is "fiercely protected" under his administration.(AFP/File/Paul J. Richards)

44 posted on 05/11/2006 12:41:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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I will wait a few days until the TRUE facts come out. In every one of these "leaks" by anonymous sources, the press has continued to mislead, hype-up, twist or actually lie about the NSA or ANYTHING the president has done. Think about the Times and other newspapers who have had to "correct" the record (of course on the last page) after blasting some story about Bush.
Everything is written as if something illegal and evil has been done....only to later be shown as untrue or clarified as legal.
The democrats and the press get more desperate with every defeat, attacking wildly, hoping any charge will stick..


47 posted on 05/11/2006 1:23:47 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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If having a database of phone connections is illegal, shouldn't phone companies be required to destroy all records of phone connections as soon as they bill their customers?
48 posted on 05/11/2006 1:27:57 PM PDT by syriacus (WHERE has Geo. Clooney been for ALL the years that Franklin Graham has been helping the Sudanese?)
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This goes WAY too far. Imagine this info in the hands of a Hillary admin. It'll be blackmail-city for political enemies, whistleblowers, activists of any kind...


63 posted on 05/11/2006 3:59:20 PM PDT by FUD-EP
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