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This confirms my high opinion of Luttig and my rapidly falling opinion of Bush and Gonzales.
1 posted on 05/11/2006 8:59:47 AM PDT by mathprof
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Ouch...that's gonna leave a mark.


2 posted on 05/11/2006 9:02:47 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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It do make you wonder, don't it? I can't figure out Gonzales' hold at DOJ, but it really is beginning to suck, big time. DOJ seems to be leaderless and going in two different directions, does the left hand know what the right hand is doing? I don't think so.


3 posted on 05/11/2006 9:05:40 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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The Bush Administration has truly lost its way and its doing it for political expediency.
4 posted on 05/11/2006 9:05:45 AM PDT by puppypusher
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You do the conservative cause no justice to post such a remark as the one following the Luttig article.

Is Bush fallible? Duh. Is he better than John Kerry or any other democrat? Dubble duhh.

It is time for all true conservatives to stand in support of the overall presidency and for those who pray, to PRAY favor on this president and WISDOM for all his decisions. Nobody's going to get it right all the time except the Lord Himself. Does that mean we sit around and kill off our good leaders by a thousand cuts of criticism?

It is time to wake up and support those who are doing the best they know to do to keep this country safe and on the right track.


5 posted on 05/11/2006 9:09:02 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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Interesting. I have been consistently underwhelmed by Gonzales. The problem is that Bush, once he appoints someone, pretty much hands over the reins to that person and doesn't intervene until things get really, really bad. I don't get the feeling that Gonzales is doing Bush's bidding, but simply that Bush is letting him do whatever he wants, and there's no consistent policy.

Reno was dumb as a post, but she was Clinton's attack dog and she was vicious and got a lot of his truly ugly deeds done for him. Bush needs somebody who will get decent work done for him, but he never seems to be able to find that person or hold anyone to account.


6 posted on 05/11/2006 9:10:33 AM PDT by livius
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Right. Rumor, accusation and usbstatatiated innuendo validate your personal Hate Bush Always political whimsy. Pure and total BS from a typical garbage partisan hit piece from the Bush haters.

How about a dose of reality for the knee jerk Bush Haters? Luttig will make about 4 times as much MONEY as a Boeing VP even BEFORE you total up his perks and stock bonuses. That's the reality and motivation, not any of the wacko Hate Bush rantings from the Perpetual Whiners.

9 posted on 05/11/2006 9:17:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yes, I AM Conservative. The Political Center is for the uninformed and cowardly)
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The reverse for me.

alMuhajir is a terrorist, formerly named Padilla, who has been trained and deployed by al Qaeda.

If the president wants to keep him in brig or to try him in civil court (if he thinks that's the best way to nail him), then I'm all for it.

The supreme court did not disagree with the president.


10 posted on 05/11/2006 9:18:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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This is B.S. Looks like even Luttig suffers from "Judge-itis". Why can't the executive branch change its mind about the best way to handle a terrorist suspect? The fact that they decided to bring him into regular court does not mean that they did not believe at one time, at least, that he was a national security threat.


11 posted on 05/11/2006 9:19:34 AM PDT by dinoparty
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Very strange behavior unbecoming of a judge. Good that he's going to be leaving the bench.


12 posted on 05/11/2006 9:22:29 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Luttig retired?!? Well - son of a b*#^h !!!
Gonzales can kiss my red white and blue ANGLO butt!

And if Dubya thinks he can appoint Gonzo for the next SCOTUS vacancy, he better fugetaboutit - and pronto. The Harriet Myers outrage is going to look like a Camp Fire Girl bake sale in comparison.

I swear, the whole administration must be on STOO-PID Pills™.

15 posted on 05/11/2006 9:24:31 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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"my rapidly falling opinion of Bush and Gonzales."

Since 2004-09-25.

16 posted on 05/11/2006 9:25:11 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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What Bush did with Padilla may have been out of political expediency -- that's not the point.

It wasn't a judge's decision to make. Either the President can use military tribunals, or he can't. That ruling can't be based on how "extraordinary" the case is.

So when Bush changed his mind (or when they had finished with Padilla) and decided to turn him over to a civilian court, Luttig and the 4th circuit had no power to overrule him. Nothing in the case or the decision REQUIRED them to keep Padilla in military tribunal.

So, Luttig's decision to do so, in what this article says was in anger, did defy logic and reason.

Luttig seems like a fine conservative, and a fine person. But it seems he fell into the trap of the imperial judiciary, thinking he, not the executive, should be the final arbitor of what happens in the country (in this case) .


17 posted on 05/11/2006 9:25:53 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The 51-year-old judge, once considered a likely Bush nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court, stepped down from his lifetime seat on the Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to start a new career in Chicago as general counsel for Boeing Co

Wow, not only is Bush destroying things with his policies and appointments, he's eroding ideal, dedicated conservative thinkers.
21 posted on 05/11/2006 9:28:57 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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too bad
i would have loved to see this guy on the Supreme Court


22 posted on 05/11/2006 9:36:17 AM PDT by DM1
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24 posted on 05/11/2006 9:36:41 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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It's total bull.


27 posted on 05/11/2006 9:39:47 AM PDT by mrsmith
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http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137836001716

Here's a truthful account of Luttig's resignation- from Luttig.


29 posted on 05/11/2006 9:44:03 AM PDT by mrsmith
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You must be one who is easily swayed.


33 posted on 05/11/2006 9:58:08 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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I expect the good judge regined to make the big bucks, If he did I can't blame him for that. I doubt he resigned over this particular case. If and its a big if, these facts are correct then thank God this guy never got on the Court A little too much of a ego if you ask me.

Also, I think COnservatives can have objectives to the Presidents powers he wants. I have had the theory for a while that Bush asks gfor the moon so he can get something reasonable in the end. I expect that he didnt resign over that.


35 posted on 05/11/2006 10:08:46 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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Very short-sighted of Luttig. I'm thinking he's reading the polls, believes a democrat will win in 08, and what the heck, he'll never make it to the Supremes anyway. He's going for the bucks after 15 or so years on the 4th Circuit, ready to cash in. And I don't fault him.

But no way am I ready to jump on Bush/Gonzales for honking big decisions they must make. We don't know what's behind their latest on Padillo, but I'm sure the implications range far beyond what happens to him. Far beyond Luttig as well. I thank God every day this president does not base decisions on what's popular with the people, or with judges.


37 posted on 05/11/2006 10:16:05 AM PDT by YaYa123
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