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To: jveritas; Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; canadianally; ...

jveritas, thanks for the confirmation that this closing sentence from the Psycho of Tehran may represent a very ominous development.

I'm sure I am not the only person on FR who will think that "CONVERT OR DIE!!" messages from a psychotic dictator who is frantically working to obtain nuclear weapons is not exactly a matter that the USA can ignore - though the lemmings in Europe will want to keep on their own suicidal path.......


65 posted on 05/11/2006 10:17:17 AM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante

Thanks for the ping--ominous indeed.


67 posted on 05/11/2006 10:18:54 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Enchante

Correction, I posted above as though the Iranian psycho was writing in Arabic, but presumably a Persian would be writing in Farsi (?) -- anyway, the issue is the type of warning implying "CONVERT OR DIE" -- whatever language it happens to be conveyed in...........


72 posted on 05/11/2006 10:21:54 AM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante; jveritas

Gosh...thanks for pinging me to this thread...I hadn't seen it...

I sure am glad you got jveritas to give his interpretation...I am getting kind of paranoid lately about who to trust...

I am amazed at how little the "Iran problem" is getting attention around here...scary.


88 posted on 05/11/2006 10:46:45 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Enchante
I continue to think some key mullahs are having misgivings with Ahmadinejah. He certainly does not have the blessing of them all. Just for instance, he demanded about two weeks back (I read one of Doctor Zin's postings), much of the Iranian banking systems money should be placed into some key personal accounts in Swizerland. The mullahs refused to let this happen. And there was another event where he asked for monies to be either converted from US to Euros or something along that line, and again the request was refused.
As he tries to further consolidate his power, he is going to spook more of those that put him into power.
If a large percentage of mullahs feel they are ultimately threatened, this president could find himself out the door, or meeting with a fatal accident.
103 posted on 05/11/2006 11:26:24 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Enchante; All
This from the blogosphere:

Convert or die.

FWIW, Pamela ( Atlas ) is a lawyer:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/05/irans_surrender.html

Iran's "Surrender" or Die Letter

I have re-read the letter. I want my readers to take a moment and read the letter, slowly.

The letter is a document of war. A declaration. The letter is an outline, an explanation, for Iran's planned attack(s). It addresses a litany of America's crimes against humanity (Israel among them.) The letter is a document for the historical record.

The president of Iran has sent us a surrender letter.  It is written by an overlord. He says democracy is in decline; he says our intelligence is infiltrated (possibly, he hints, by Iran); and he asks Mr. Bush if he wants to flock to the Almighty God 'like everyone else', knowing full well that Bush is a religious man, and that he can only be referring to Allah (propeller beanie upon him.)  This is no invitation to negotiate, or even talk, this looks to me like a "you have til sundown" moment. Has this been considered?

Indigo Red points out Islam requires that an enemy state be given the chance to convert to Islam before being attacked and killed. The letter has been mistranslated by changing Allah to God; equating G*d and Allah is misleading.

Ahmadinejad lays it all out.  The secret prisons in Europe (thank you MaryMcCarthy and a left wing liberal press),  Guantanamo Bay, and he makes the case for the world. He actually speaks on behalf of  the world.

Here for the Middle East;

As you are well aware, I live amongst the people and am in constant contact with them --many people from around the Middle East manage to contact me as well. They dot not have faith in these dubious policies either. There is evidence that the people of the region are becoming increasingly angry with such policies.

Here for Latin America and Africa;

Don’t Latin Americans have the right to ask, why their elected governments are being opposed and coup leaders supported? Or, why must they constantly be threatened and live in fear?
The people of Africa are hardworking, creative and talented. They can play an important and valuable role in providing for the needs of humanity and contribute to its material and spiritual progress. Poverty and hardship in large parts of Africa are preventing this from happening. Don’t they have the right to ask why their enormous wealth – including minerals –is being looted, despite the fact that they need it more than others?

And the of course, he speaks of his own country's case for attack;

The brave and faithful people of Iran too have many questions and grievances, including: the coup d’etat of 1953 and the subsequent toppling of the legal government of the day, opposition to the Islamic revolution, transformation of an Embassy into a headquarters supporting, the activities of those opposing the Islamic Republic (many thousands of pages of documents corroborates this claim), support for Saddam in the war waged against Iran, the shooting down of the Iranian passenger plane, freezing the assets of the Iranian nation, increasing threats, anger and displeasure vis-à-vis the scientific and nuclear progress of the Iranian nation (just when all Iranians are jubilant and collaborating their country’s progress), and many other grievances that I will not refer to in this letter.

And finally, the declaration.

How much longer can the world tolerate this situation?
Where will this trend lead the world to?
How long must the people of the world pay for the incorrect decisions of some rulers?
How much longer will the specter of insecurity – raised from the stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction – hunt the people of the world?
How much longer will the blood of the innocent men, women and children be spilled on the streets, and people’s houses destroyed over their heads? Are you pleased with the current condition of the world? Do you think present policies can continue?

He continues on a religious Islamic rant;

We also believe that Jesus Christ (PBUH) was one of the great prophets of the Almighty. He has been repeatedly praised in the Koran. Jesus (PBUH) has been quoted in Koran as well;[19,36] And surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, therefore serves Him

There's more, much more "islamic teachings" but I'm not running it.

Liberalism and Western style democracy have not been able to help realize the ideals ofhumanity. Today these two concepts have failed. Those with insight can already hear the sounds of the shattering and fall of the ideology and thoughts of the liberal democratic systems.

And finally, the call to arms;

Whether we like it or not, the world is gravitating towards faith in the Almighty and justice and the will of God will prevail over all things.

Vasalam Ala Man Ataba’al hoda

Mahmood Ahmadi-Najad
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran

The Iranian President is inviting President Bush (and America) to convert or die.

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http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/05/letter.html

The Letter

Iran's Surrender Letter

I have re-read the letter. I want my readers to take a moment and read the letter, slowly.

  10 comments  I have expanded on my first comments at Atlas Shrugs in a post at Further Adventures of Indigo Red.


More than you probably want to read here:

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

171 posted on 05/11/2006 4:40:35 PM PDT by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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