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NCOs Note Differences Between What They See and What They Hear (NCOs say MSM lies about War)
American Forces Press Service ^ | Jim Garamone

Posted on 05/10/2006 5:50:28 PM PDT by SandRat

CAMP LIBERTY, Iraq, May 10, 2006 – It's the e-mails and calls from home that gave the soldiers of the 4th Infantry Division their first clue that something is becoming different about the will of the American people. "All this time I thought we were winning," said a sergeant first class sarcastically. "Seems folks back home have already run up the white flag."

Some 4th Infantry Division noncommissioned officers were discussing the flood of e-mails they receive from family members and friends about the constant danger they are facing in Iraq. Though they asked not to be identified by name for this article, the NCOs said they believe the news media highlight explosions and murders over any sign of progress in Iraq.

"I see progress every time I go outside the wire," said a platoon sergeant. "Just look at the progress the Iraqi army has made."

The NCOs, many with years of infantry experience, said the Iraqi army has made tremendous strides since standing up just two years ago. The difference between the Iraqi National Guard that first stood up in the aftermath of the fall of Saddam Hussein and today's Iraqi army is night and day, said an NCO who served with the 101st Airborne Division in 2003's initial combat in Iraq.

He said the old Iraqi military hardly even fired its weapons. "We joked that the safest place to be was where they were aiming," he said.

But today's Iraqi army has developed the professional warrior ethos needed to be an effective fighting force. The men said the Iraqi NCOs are taking charge of their units and tending to 'NCO business.'

"In the old army, being an NCO just meant you were paid more," said an NCO. Now the Iraqi NCOs are serious about training their troops and ensuring they are cared for.

One NCO spoke about an incident in Baghdad that the Iraqi army handled without any help from the coalition. "There was a (car bomb) attack and the Iraqis handled it," he said. The Iraqi soldiers rushed to the scene, delivered aid to those wounded, cordoned off the area and searched it for other threats, and secured the site while Iraqi police conducted the investigation.

This is not to say there aren't problems, the NCOs said. While the Iraqi army has made tremendous progress, the Iraqi police - especially the local police - have a long way to go. But they're continuing to make progress, the NCOs said.

The special police units - now called the national police - are almost as professional as the military, the NCOs said. And the young recruits to the local police understand what is required of them and have embraced the training. "If that continues when they get on the street is the test," an NCO said.

These NCOs are not ready to leave Iraq, and they resent suggestions that they aren't doing good in this war-weary country.

"I have yet to speak to (an American) here who thinks we're losing," an NCO said. "Trust me. (No soldier) wants to be here, but no one wants to cut and run either."

"Leaving would just send the wrong signal to our enemies," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; michaelmoore; msm; nco; reality

1 posted on 05/10/2006 5:50:31 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...

2 posted on 05/10/2006 5:51:05 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

"Seems folks back home have already run up the white flag."

Only the anti-American crowd -- and they started working for defeat from the very beginning.


3 posted on 05/10/2006 6:26:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: SandRat
I met a medic from the 82nd while i was filling my gas at a station in Massachusetts. He saw the back of my car, that looked like this (Without the cat)

And he came over to tell me how much he liked seeing this bumpersticker in Massachusetts. We talked for a while, he had been in Afghanistan, and he said he was shocked at the way things were being portrayed in the papers and television. He said is was nothing like the way they make it sound.

4 posted on 05/10/2006 6:37:41 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: SandRat
"Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoe making and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poor house."
-- Mark Twain

I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast.
-- Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman

Seems nothing much has changed since ol' Mark's and Bill's times.

"Laziness has become the chief characteristic of journalism, displacing incompetence."
-- Kingsley Amis

I think Amis got it wrong. Laziness has just been added to the incometence, not supplanting it. The MSM have both in droves, and continue to display them daily.

5 posted on 05/10/2006 7:03:33 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: potlatch

ping to post #4.
Huh! What's Whiskey doing in Massachusetts?


6 posted on 05/10/2006 10:24:18 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik

LOL, he took a quick trip huh?


7 posted on 05/10/2006 10:30:00 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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