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I HAVE A PLAN TO DESTROY AMERICA
Amherst Times ^ | 15 April 2006 | RICHARD D. LAMM

Posted on 05/10/2006 3:50:05 PM PDT by neverdem

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Lamm was a liberal, anti-business governor in Colorado.

But, the important thing here is to realize that the immigration debate crosses political lines. I had a detailed conversation with Professor Lamm about this subject last year, and he is serious about it, and believes we are lost if we don't act very soon to control our borders and to control immigration.

The part that I find troublesome is...the fact that the right ideas about immigration can be found on both sides of the debate (with some) may actually be making it harder to get something done.

This would never have happened in the past. I submit that this is the product of our neo-sour political system, which does not move for the good of the country, but only for perceived advantage of the political class.

I'm not ready to say "a pox on both your houses" yet, but, things are not looking promising.


21 posted on 05/10/2006 4:09:15 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The leadership of Iran must be decapitated or overthrown, now.)
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To: neverdem
Must be where Jim Kessler of The Third Way gets his talking points. Kessler is the "brains" behind the coming Dem assault on the Middle Class. Dean is a diversion.
22 posted on 05/10/2006 4:09:18 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: webheart

Protocols by the Prior of Colorado.


23 posted on 05/10/2006 4:10:54 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: uncitizen
Well, not to nitpick, but Jf'nK just says "I have a plan." and leaves it at that. He never really ever says what his plan is.

Sure, he had a plan and executed it rather well. It was the get out of Viet Nam (you do know he was there) as quick as possible with no serious injuries that a bandaid wouldn't cover. Actually, he had two plans. The second was to work as little as possible (very similar to plan 1) and live off someone else's millions.

24 posted on 05/10/2006 4:11:07 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: neverdem

I agree. Thank you for posting this.


25 posted on 05/10/2006 4:11:38 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: neverdem

GREETINGS! I AM RICHARD D. LAMM, FORMER GOVERNOR OF COLORADO NOW LIVING IN NIGERIA. DURING MY TERM AS GOVERNOR I CAME INTO A LARGE SUM OF FUNDS THAT NOW TOTALS $35,000,000 USD. I AM LOOKING FOR A BUSINESS ASSOCIATE TO CONTACT MY BARRISTER TO ARRANGE TRANSFER OF THESE FUNDS TO AMERICA. IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR SERVICES I WILL REMIT 10% OF THE TOTAL TO YOU ..................


26 posted on 05/10/2006 4:12:23 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: neverdem
I bet that he did not like that movie made about his state in 1984. The prospect of people using arms to defend their state from foreign invaders (Hispanics and Russians) must have driven Governor Lamm insane. (Red Dawn)

(I bet that if such an invasion would have happened, he would have sympathized with the Russian and Cuban invaders, and would have vied for administrator powers over "Occupuied Colorado")

The above Things would have made Governor Lamm happy. It would be considered "Socialistic and Multiculturalist"

Images and things that drove Governor Lamm nuts and gave him nightmares!!

27 posted on 05/10/2006 4:18:53 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: jdm
"Elderly have a Duty to Die" Richard Lamm 1984
28 posted on 05/10/2006 4:20:19 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: neverdem; All
In the interest of legibility--

Richard D. Lamm was a Democrat who served as governor of Colorado for twelve years from 1975 to 1987.

“This is a speech I gave in Washington D.C. It was a 5 minute speech, and I am amazed and gratified it has received so much coverage.”

I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white bread, too self-satisfied, too rich, lets destroy America. It is not that hard to do. History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that "an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide." here is my plan:

I. We must first make America a bilingual-bicultural country. History shows, in my opinion, that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. One scholar, Seymour Martin Lipset, put it this way:

The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon-all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with its Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.

II. I would then invent "multiculturalism" and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal: that there are no cultural differences that are important. I would declare it an article of faith that the black and Hispanic dropout rate is only due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out-of-bounds.

III. We can make the united states a "Hispanic Quebec" without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently:

...the apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically, and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.

I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with a salad bowl metaphor. It is important to insure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than Americans, emphasizing their similarities.

IV. Having done all this, i would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated - i would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% drop out rate from school.

V. I would then get the big foundations and big business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and i would establish the cult of victimology. I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was all the fault of the majority - i would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.

VI. I would establish dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would "celebrate diversity." "diversity" is a wonderfully seductive word. It stresses differences rather than commonalities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other-that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse," peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together, and we can take advantage of this myopia. Look at the ancient Greeks. Dorf's world history tells us: The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games in honor of Zeus and all Greeks venerated the shrine of Apollo at Delphi. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet, all of these bonds together were not strong enough to overcome two factors . . . (local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions . . .) If we can put the emphasis on the "pluribus," instead of the "unum," we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.

VII. Then I would place all these subjects off limits - make it taboo to talk about. I would find a word similar to "heretic" in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like "racist", "xenophobe" that halts argument and conversation.

Having made America a bilingual-bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of "victimology", I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra - "that because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good." I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact.

VIII. Lastly, I would censor ***victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia — this book is dangerous — it exposes my plan to destroy America. So please, please — if you feel that America deserves to be destroyed — please, please — don't buy this book! This guy is on to my plan.

"the smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum." — Noam Chomsky, American linguist and us media and foreign policy critic.

Governor Lamm misidentifies the author of the book Mexifornia, whose correct name is Victor Davis Hanson.

29 posted on 05/10/2006 4:20:51 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: neverdem

Hmmmm . . .

30 posted on 05/10/2006 4:23:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Thunder90

Wolverines!


31 posted on 05/10/2006 4:25:13 PM PDT by sheana
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To: neverdem; All
Thanks for posting this. It is great post!

Immigration is a big issue with room, within conservatism, for a range of opinion.

Some may see the need for labor and be eager to bring more immigrants here. I could give that view some respect as long as those wanting the immigration were also respectful of the profound issues raised here by Gov. Lamm and put forward some suggestions as to how these horrendous consequences might be mitigated.

But those who simply blow this off with contempt can not, by any stretch, be called "conservatives." In fact, I would say that such persons are my absolute and total political enemies.

And nobody likes the caps. But carping about that -- THAT IS THE WAY IT IS IN THE SOURCE -- is pathetic (unless you add a smiley).

32 posted on 05/10/2006 4:26:07 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: GunsareOK

Governor Lamm probably supports a Russian/Chinese/Hispanic invasion of the US.


33 posted on 05/10/2006 4:27:04 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: mtbopfuyn
he had a plan and executed it rather well. It was the get out of Viet Nam (you do know he was there)

No. i wasn't aware of that.
34 posted on 05/10/2006 4:29:53 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: ElkGroveDan
SIGN ME UP....IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT VERY LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
35 posted on 05/10/2006 4:31:28 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: GunsareOK

THANK YOU! I was planning on converting it but you did it.



37 posted on 05/10/2006 4:33:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: jdm
Death by CAPSLOCK! :)

YUP! ALMOST AS BAD AS A FLIPPIN PSENTENCE THAT'S TWELVE PAGES LONG!

I've noticed that it is often older folks who love the Caps Lock key.

38 posted on 05/10/2006 4:34:10 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
thanks for the INFO
39 posted on 05/10/2006 4:36:04 PM PDT by edpc
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