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Democrats' Message Misses Middle Class
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194749,00.html ^

Posted on 05/10/2006 1:23:34 PM PDT by truthfinder9

Lots of people bemoan the fact that the Democratic Party does not connect with white middle class voters, but few of the complainers offer workable solutions.

Third-Way, a "center progressive" think tank made up of former Democratic Congressional and White House staffers, has now addressed this issue with some real insight.

In a study released on May 4, Third-way notes that Democrats believe they are talking to middle class voters but that their message is all wrong. The study then makes some very specific suggestions on how to solve the problem.

Let’s review the bidding.

First, middle class is defined as household income between $30,000 and $75,000 a year. Obviously this figure could go higher in some parts of the country, depending on cost of living factors.

In 2004, John Kerry lost middle class white voters by 22 points and Congressional Democrats lost middle class white voters by 19 points. Kerry lost all middle class voters as a group (including whites, Blacks and Hispanics) by 6 points.

This was not an aberration but part of a trend. In 2000, Al Gore lost middle class white voters by 15 points and Congressional Democrats lost them by 14 points. In 1996, Congressional Democrats lost middle class white voters by 12 points.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; elections; liberals; middleclass; midnitebasketball; taxes; voting
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1 posted on 05/10/2006 1:23:37 PM PDT by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9
People don't like socialism -- they figured out that it's Marxism.
People don't like democratic socialism -- they figured out that it's Marxism.
People don't like Progressivism -- they figured out that it's Marxism.
People don't like Greens -- they figured out that it's Marxism.
People don't like Democrats -- they figured out that they're Marxists.

What's that? There's a "Third Way"?? Wow! Maybe that's the solution to all our problems!!

2 posted on 05/10/2006 1:27:14 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Third Way Charts Economic Path Back for Progressives with Middle-Class.
3 posted on 05/10/2006 1:29:37 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Add to list:
People don't like the Gay Agenda being shoved in their face.
People don't like Nannies telling them they are bad for trying to take care of their children.
People don't like rich elites who never worked a hard day in their life telling them that "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."


4 posted on 05/10/2006 1:32:37 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: sinkspur
New Ideas: The paper lays out a number of policy ideas to serve as examples of the type that the new message would support. These proposals, which include ideas like :

expanding the tax deductibility of college tuition,
promoting innovation,
tax simplification,
creating incentives for telecommuting,
and revising the way that IRAs and 401(k)s work

are designed to help individuals take advantage of opportunities and manage risk.

Woo-Hoo! That's some bold thinking!! A platform like that will surely capture the hearts of minds of the voters!

5 posted on 05/10/2006 1:34:36 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: truthfinder9
Democrats' Message Misses Middle Class

Well, I'm pretty sure the middle class got their message, and reject it.

6 posted on 05/10/2006 1:35:43 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: truthfinder9

scratchin my head ? didn't Rats claim the middle class is gone ? only rich and poor exist ? 2 Americas..yada, yada, yada


8 posted on 05/10/2006 1:39:30 PM PDT by stylin19a (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: truthfinder9
The study notes that . . . only 2.7 percent of the entire workforce earned the minimum wage last year.
. . . and doesn't say what percentage of that group is over the age of 20 . . .

Per Thomas Sowell, that number is quite small; to craft policy to help that group at the expense of the economy in general is to establish a "wino veto" which holds the general welfare hostage to a tiny special, and not especially virtuous, interest.


9 posted on 05/10/2006 1:41:22 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: truthfinder9
The Who's Who of Third Way--The management team of Third Way, and its sister organization, the Third Way Institute, is composed of political entrepreneurs who have served in senior positions in Congress and the Clinton/Gore Administration and also have extensive experience running successful national advocacy groups.
10 posted on 05/10/2006 1:41:55 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: truthfinder9
They've lost the ideology war with America's middle class. Americans are too educated to fall for New Deal era rhetoric now.

The liberals know that. That's why they want to import a whole new base of useful idiots.

11 posted on 05/10/2006 1:43:29 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (I didn't leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I love these lame attempts by the socialist liberals to appeal to middle class Americans. What a pathetic bunch of unimaginative losers.


12 posted on 05/10/2006 1:43:58 PM PDT by blitzgig
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To: sss33

The Democrats are the party of political correctness. Whatever far out left wing causes people have, they have a home in the Democratic party.

Republicans aren't perfect - far from it - but there is far more common sense thinking in the Republican party than the Democratic party.

The Democrats are the party of hysteria and emotion on many issues. Republicans have policy positions for different reasons that they can at least explain. Democrats have policy positions based on hysteria about saving the planet or on the emotions about not wanting to discriminate against anyone. Like same sex marriage or global warming, no attempt is made by Democrats to think through whether the proposed policies are good for society. Emotions and hysteria are the policies.

And Democrats are the party of the Manhattan/Washington/Hollywood/San Francisco elitists. These elites just don't connect with the middle class.

And so Democrats just don't connect with the middle class.


13 posted on 05/10/2006 1:45:06 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: truthfinder9
(4) Make college the goal of all young Americans by expanding the tax deductibility of college tuition for middle class parents.
Now that is a policy that would attract votes. In a big way. The true answer to that challenge would be a flat tax or national sales tax, but making college tuition deductible would be pretty close to a lot of people's price.

14 posted on 05/10/2006 1:45:45 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: truthfinder9

Anyone who works and is in the "middle class," who claims to be a democrat is delusional. This party has campaigned against us since at least 1972. They do not support lower taxes. They do not support life. They do not support a strong national defense. They do not support religious freedom. They do not support the secind amendment. They do not support freedom.
I don't care what some of them say--we know they lie like hell and I don't see it stopping--the lies are in fact becoming more outrageous.


15 posted on 05/10/2006 1:47:54 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: fight_truth_decay
From their website:

"Conservatives have made huge political strides by defining and grouping under the label of “culture” a basket of divisive but otherwise entirely unrelated issues like abortion, guns, gay marriage and religion. While conservatives should not get to define American values, progressives have for too long stood idly by and allowed them to do so."

16 posted on 05/10/2006 1:50:28 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Martin Frost, ex-Dem in the US House, from the Dallas, Texas area, made this list.

I bet if you went back and looked at his career in the House, you would find he introduced few (if any) bills with these goals in them, and when Republican bills with these goals in them came up for a vote, he voted against them. Over and over and over. As would about 98% of Dems would vote today.

Just my educated guess...

17 posted on 05/10/2006 1:52:57 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: sageb1
Conservatives have made huge political strides by defining and grouping under the label of “culture” a basket of divisive but otherwise entirely unrelated issues like abortion, guns, gay marriage and religion

Did the conservatives group those together or is it just that the pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-gay marriage and anti-religion groups always seem to show up together supporting the Democrats?

18 posted on 05/10/2006 1:53:38 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, more small-bore Clintonism, an economic policy version of midnight basketball.


19 posted on 05/10/2006 1:55:31 PM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: truthfinder9

Memo

From: Howard Dean, DNC Chairman
To: Middle Class Americans

re: A heartfelt appeal to you...

We hate you.

Yeeeearrrrgh!
Howard


p.s.: vote for us... PLEASE!!!

p.p.s: Give us money too.


20 posted on 05/10/2006 1:55:38 PM PDT by rock_lobsta
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