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'Brokeback' Initiation: Fraternity Members Face Hazing Fines...
AP ^ | 5/10/06 | AP

Posted on 05/10/2006 1:12:02 PM PDT by andrew2527

Four fraternity members accused of making pledges wear cowboy clothes and suffer homophobic insults in a "Brokeback Mountain"-themed initiation ritual face $1,000 fines under the state's anti-hazing law.

University of Vermont police said the civil penalties stemmed from a March 2 party at the Phi Gamma Delta house based on the movie about gay cowboys.

"What they did, which I felt was homophobic in nature, was inappropriate," UVM Police Chief Gary Margolis said.

Phi Gamma Delta's alumni advisers have denied accounts of anti- homosexual remarks and heavy drinking at the party.

Chittenden County Deputy State's Attorney Ed Sutton said his office did not plan to file criminal charges and believed the case "would be better dealt with in context of a university judicial review."

University police singled out four officers in the fraternity, Margolis said. Scott Curley II, 18, of Bridgewater, Mass.; Eric Freedman, 20, of West Simsbury, Conn.; Bill Holohan IV, 20, of Branford, Conn.; and Geoffrey Robinson, 20, of Middletown Springs were given tickets Friday, police said.

Vermont's anti-hazing law was passed after a 1999 hazing scandal at UVM in which members of the hockey team were accused of forcing freshman players to drink warm beer until they vomited and march in an "elephant walk" while holding each other's genitals. The allegations triggered the cancellation of the last 15 games of the hockey season


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: hazing; homophobiaisnt; homosexualagenda; homosexualityissick; savage; wedontfeargays; weinernation; whataboutfreespeech
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To: Republican Wildcat

"some fraternities make them go the full brokeback"

Pretty much a myth, I think.

At MIT, it was something upwards of 80% greek. There was no place (reasonably priced and non-dorm) to live, otherwise.


21 posted on 05/10/2006 1:30:55 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: andrew2527

How terrible! Homophobic insults! That's against the law, isn't it?


22 posted on 05/10/2006 1:32:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: cyberaxe

I have never been to a frat initiation. I am a shell-back, though. And I know that initiation would be cause for a firing squad, now.


23 posted on 05/10/2006 1:33:03 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: andrew2527

Why do these fraternities have so many homo overtones?
Lots of closeted rich guys?


24 posted on 05/10/2006 1:34:24 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: andrew2527

We have a great thing called "Freedom of Assembly" in this country. Except when we don't.

In those cases, we have the state dictating to willing parties that they are not allowed to pursue their own private interests.


25 posted on 05/10/2006 1:36:04 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: andrew2527

FIJI was banned at Cornell just before I arrived.

A 'fun loving bunch' for sure.


26 posted on 05/10/2006 1:37:47 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: battlegearboat
...as he adjusted his Gucci Sam Brown belt and wiped maple syrup off of his bejeweled badge.

-thats not nice...

ROTFLMAO

27 posted on 05/10/2006 1:37:52 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: ozoneliar
phobic: (old definition) suffering from irrational fears

phobic: (new definition) expressing insufficient zeal while expressing total support.

Joe was expelled from the university for homophobia because he stopped clapping too soon at the end of the gay pride parade.

28 posted on 05/10/2006 1:41:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: quikdrw

The Navy stopped that particular initiation, re-instuted a Bowdlerized version, and (I am told, although I'd love to hear from a current sailor) then stopped even that. Pity. I can't think of a better way to spend a day than crawling through garbage stem to stern with guys whipping on you with firehoses. And then there was the Royal Baby...


29 posted on 05/10/2006 1:42:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: quikdrw
.....it's been a long time ago.....

.....but it never seemed more than just "harmless" humor.....

.....yep, I was scared to death at the time.....

.....but after it was over.....

.....we all could'nt wait to "haze" the next pledges.....

.....and as far as making fun of homos.....

.....heck, we made fun of everybody!.....

30 posted on 05/10/2006 1:42:34 PM PDT by cyberaxe (((.....does this mean I'm kewl now?.....)))
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To: finnman69

When I was at U of M, a frat {I forget which one) was banned after a pledge was shot in the genitals by a BB gun during some sick initiation.


31 posted on 05/10/2006 1:43:06 PM PDT by andrew2527
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To: Paloma_55
"When they say "homophobic" does that mean they expressed an irrational fear, or is this word now just another way to say "they were really really mean and scary!" ???"

No, silly. Homophobic is a fear of words that sound the same but are spelled differently.

32 posted on 05/10/2006 1:45:52 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: andrew2527
Crimethinkers! Doubleplusquick, send them to joycamp until they think blackwhite!
33 posted on 05/10/2006 1:46:35 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: andrew2527
"These boys just need to visit New Hampshire to try the johnnycakes." - Vito


34 posted on 05/10/2006 1:48:56 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: andrew2527
"stemmed from a March 2 party at the Phi Gamma Delta house"

Delta house?


35 posted on 05/10/2006 1:51:23 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: andrew2527

I read this thinking, this was a crime? Gees, this is such bulloney!


36 posted on 05/10/2006 2:01:54 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: andrew2527
>> ...forcing freshman players to drink warm beer until they vomited and march in an "elephant walk" while holding each other's genitals.

Video at 6:00 and 11:00.

37 posted on 05/10/2006 2:15:59 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5)Ludwig Minelli 4)nuclear war 3)Ted Bundy 2)Margaret Sanger 1)Eric Pianka.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Thanks for the reminder. I never thought I would be glad to see Sopranos end. IMO and that of many others who watch it, they went too far. All the comment I hear sounded similar to mine.

"Nooooooooo not the Sopranos!!" The subject was never needed in the first place. They totally took it too far and lost a big part of their audience.
38 posted on 05/10/2006 2:16:32 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: andrew2527
... making pledges wear cowboy clothes and suffer homophobic insults...

Whew. Well, that's nothing. When I read the headline I thought... well.. you know.

39 posted on 05/10/2006 2:16:41 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: quikdrw
I am a shell-back, though.

Me too! But ours was pretty mild as it was a submarine tender with women aboard.

40 posted on 05/10/2006 2:18:39 PM PDT by wizardoz
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