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Mark Steyn: The Da Vinci Code: bad writing for Biblical illiterates
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| 05/10/06
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 05/10/2006 8:05:29 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Tax-chick
LOL! I kin run a metaphor through a laundry mangle with the best of 'em.
What really concerns me is that success of this nature and on this topic will inevitably result in an avalanche of imitators who are writers not more, but less skillful than Brown. You have a fellow strikes a motherlode like this and you're going to have a whole lot of other folks looking for their own poke.
For example, I recently uncovered a genuine letter from Saint Paul on an archeological dig in Boise wherein he admits that his "better marry than burn" thing was just a cover for a line of brothels he was establishing along the caravan routes near Tarsus. The whole thing was hushed up, of course, but as soon as I can get to a word processor that can translate from Yiddish I'm gonna be rich too. You can say you knew me when.
To: vajimbo
Chortle! I do get careless with the articles.
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posted on
05/10/2006 9:49:00 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
To: AmishDude; bondserv
I actually read parabolic as "he starts out here, curves out there and then curves back around to where he makes his point." I bought it as a pretty good description of Steyn's style.
However, having seen your post, I think it could be that "parable like" is what the original poster was going for?
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posted on
05/10/2006 9:49:36 AM PDT
by
Phsstpok
(There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
To: Billthedrill
I hope you hit the big time! My 15-year-old controls the weather. She lets Karl Rove think he's doing it, but that's just a coverup.
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posted on
05/10/2006 9:50:11 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
To: Pokey78
Two of my favorites:
[As Dr. Simon Gathercole of the University of Aberdeen told my old pal Dalya Alberge in the London Times, the alleged Gospel of Judas "contains a number of religious themes which are completely alien to the first-century world of Jesus and Judas, but which did become popular later, in the second century AD. An analogy would be finding a speech claiming to be written by Queen Victoria, in which she talked about The Lord Of The Rings and her CD collection."]
and
[And that would probably sell, too, if you put in a bit about how she was the love child of John the Baptist, but the Knights Templar covered it up until the manuscript was discovered at an Elks Lodge.]
Gotta love it.
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posted on
05/10/2006 10:05:10 AM PDT
by
khnyny
To: dead
It was like reading a transcript of a pretentious Scooby Doo episode.My impression too!
86
posted on
05/10/2006 10:13:45 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
To: Kokojmudd
Do the church leaders think Christians are such idiots or is it another example of American Christiandom's fascination with pop culture? Christians can indeed be ignorant of Christianity. Surprising how many Christians think "God helps those who help themselves" is in the Bible.
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posted on
05/10/2006 10:13:58 AM PDT
by
N. Theknow
(Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
To: Pokey78
In "Angels and Demons" Brown describes cell phones as having dial tones and being able to get a signal from deep underground in buried chambers.
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posted on
05/10/2006 10:31:23 AM PDT
by
ops33
(Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
To: dead
"...and I would have fooled them into thinking it's a true
story if it hadn't been for those darn kids!"
(Scooby Doo ending)
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posted on
05/10/2006 10:31:58 AM PDT
by
Rakkasan1
(lead ,follow or get out of the majority.start with our borders.)
To: Phsstpok
However, having seen your post, I think it could be that "parable like" is what the original poster was going for? That is the correct terminology. "parable like"
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posted on
05/10/2006 10:51:04 AM PDT
by
bondserv
(God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
To: Pokey78
Dan Brown sounds like he might be a nom de guerre for Dan "fake but accurate" Rather.
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posted on
05/10/2006 11:00:55 AM PDT
by
Disambiguator
(Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
To: prairiebreeze
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posted on
05/10/2006 11:23:15 AM PDT
by
prairiebreeze
(God bless our fine military and their families.)
To: Billthedrill
It's already started. I picked up a paperback last fall which was based on the Thrid Secret of Fatima, with a lot of cloak and dagger stuff. As someone who was then in RCIA (and am now a practicing Catholic) imagine how thrilled I was when the Virgin's message at Fatima boiled down to 1. Married priests are ok, 2. Homosexuality is all part of love, and 3. Since Mary chose her own destiny, it is the right of women to choose their own destiny, including whether or not to carry a baby to term.
If I had known what that book was going to be about, I would never have bought it.
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posted on
05/10/2006 11:25:50 AM PDT
by
Miss Marple
(Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
To: Steve_Seattle
I don't think that any passage in the New Testament unambiguously describes Jesus as God incarnate. The first part of the Gospel of John is quite unambiguous.
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posted on
05/10/2006 11:51:39 AM PDT
by
D-fendr
To: JGT
"Have you read Eric Voegelin's "Science, Politics, and Gnosticism"? He makes some interesting, though controversial, comparisons between Gnosticism and modern secular mass movements."
No, I haven't, but it sounds interesting. I might check it out.
To: AmishDude; Phsstpok; bondserv
Parabolic means that it is governed by a quadratic equation.parabolic
adj 1: resembling or expressed by parables [syn: parabolical]
2: having the form of a parabola [syn: parabolical]
Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University
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posted on
05/10/2006 12:23:38 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(Got freedom? Thank a veteran.)
To: Albion Wilde
Thanks; I think.
Backpedaling can be embarrassing, especially when one is originally correct. ;-)
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posted on
05/10/2006 12:28:34 PM PDT
by
bondserv
(God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
To: D-fendr
"The first part of the Gospel of John is quite unambiguous."
In the common translation it seems to be unambiguous because of the use of capital letters (not warranted in the the original) and other translation issues, but I have read scholarly discussions of this passage which cast serious doubt on the accepted orthodox meaning. And there are other passages in John (I don't have a Bible with me, so can't quote them), that seem to make a clear distinction between Jesus and God.
But apart from haggling over these specific passages, there is the larger question of whether the Gospel of John is a reliable witness to the beliefs of Jesus and the first apostles. Many scholars claim that it isn't. I concede that there are passages in John and Paul that seem to support the divinity of Jesus, but there are perhaps more passages which contradict this idea, e.g., "Why do you call me good? Only the One (Father) is good." So I interpret the mostly-ambiguous pro-divinity passages in light of the passages that seem to contradict this.
To: Albion Wilde
I went to boarding school with him - where his father also taught. Pretty certain he is protestant...
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posted on
05/10/2006 12:34:57 PM PDT
by
bt_dooftlook
(Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
To: Steve_Seattle
I also don't think the feminists understand how gnostic disgust with the physical life invariably hurts women, anymore than they comprehend the beliefs of Islam and what they mean to women.
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