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Top Gun pilot forgot landing gear
[Tucson] Arizona Daily Star ^ | 05.10.2006 | Carol Ann Alaimo

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:28:38 AM PDT by IonImplantGuru

A former Navy Top Gun with decades of flying experience forgot to put his plane's landing gear down during an air show practice run in Tucson in March, the Federal Aviation Administration found.

Retired Capt. Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, a seasoned pro on the military air-show circuit, was piloting a Korean War-era F-86 Sabre that scraped to a stop and caught fire in the March 4 mishap at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base. Snodgrass, 57, was given counseling as "corrective action," according to the FAA report, obtained by the Arizona Daily Star under the Freedom of Information Act.

The pilot was unhurt in the incident, which shut down air-show practice at D-M that day. The vintage warplane he was flying, owned by a California air museum, sustained minor damage when one of its wing fuel tanks ignited.

The F-86 was one of dozens of warplanes in Tucson to practice formation flying for the 2006 air-show season. The event was not open to the general public. Snodgrass remains on the Air Force schedule this season. The service still has "total confidence in his abilities," according to a statement from the Air Combat Command.

Snodgrass, a Florida resident, declined to comment on the FAA finding.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ace; f86; jetjockey; oops; sabre; topgun
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To: null and void

I'm guessing that there are not a whole lot of people who will read 100 posts before posting :)


101 posted on 05/10/2006 12:24:11 PM PDT by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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To: IonImplantGuru

There are two kinds of pilots who fly retractable gear aircraft.....Those who have and those who are going to land gear up.


I knew I was in trouble when I heard the prop hit the runway.....Quote from one of my instructors.


102 posted on 05/10/2006 12:26:48 PM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: IonImplantGuru
"You two really are cowboys."
"What's your problem, Kazanski?"
"You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you go up in the air, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous."
"That's right...Ice...man. I am dangerous."
103 posted on 05/10/2006 12:28:06 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The Defense Department regrets to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid.")
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To: lormand

Looks like it...


104 posted on 05/10/2006 12:29:58 PM PDT by null and void (Islam wasn't hijacked on 9/11. It was exposed.)
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To: IonImplantGuru

Interesting. An F-86 landed with the right main hung up at the Maxwell AFB air show a few weeks ago.


105 posted on 05/10/2006 12:34:29 PM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: doorgunner69
Scare 36, Gear up, full stop. ;)
106 posted on 05/10/2006 12:36:14 PM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: TankerKC
Link from the Maxwell Airshow (video)F-86 landing gear fails at air showF-86 landing gear fails at air show
107 posted on 05/10/2006 12:40:06 PM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: Pukin Dog

Wow, some pic! Thanks.


108 posted on 05/10/2006 1:04:19 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: P8riot

no problem, be nice to have ya aboard...It is a whole lotta fun. June 23 - 25 is Under the Redcoat at Williamsburg... Come on out, Chownings Tavern at 7pm, first round on me :)


109 posted on 05/10/2006 1:11:34 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Who ever heard of a sailor turning down a drink with another. It's a deal.


110 posted on 05/10/2006 1:13:55 PM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: P8riot

All you gotta do is look for the sailors, or listen for the rowdiest table... We will probably be the ones singing Spanish Ladies


111 posted on 05/10/2006 1:23:05 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: angryirish
Cool Pic. But that's an F-15.

It is an F-14.

112 posted on 05/10/2006 1:49:31 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Cool Pic. But that's an F-15.

It is an F-14.

Looks like a F-15 to me, from the wing and engine configuration. At that low speed the Tomcat would have its wings all the way forward, and there's separation between the two exhausts (on the 14).

-Eric

113 posted on 05/10/2006 2:15:46 PM PDT by E Rocc (Behavior that is rewarded is repeated)
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To: E Rocc
Looks like a F-15 to me, from the wing and engine configuration

Might want to look at an F-15 a little closer, it has a shorter stubbier wing then the plane in the picture. Also, did you know Pukin Dog is a former F-14 driver?

114 posted on 05/10/2006 3:21:13 PM PDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: yhwhsman; E Rocc; Pukin Dog

Guys, the photo he's referring to is the one with the F-22 and two old prop fighters (can't tell what they are), not the gonzo fly-by shot of the F-14. That is a F-15 with the other planes, not a F-16 as posted.


115 posted on 05/10/2006 3:40:23 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69; E Rocc
Big oops on that one. Thanks for the correction. We were talking about different pictures.
116 posted on 05/10/2006 3:59:42 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Mat_Helm
Must be related to "Wheels Up Wesh", who trashed an A-7 on 32L at NASL and ripped the tail and wings off a rolling gears up landing. He also grounded CVN65 Enterprise on a sand bar in Frisco Bay losing his command because he had the con at the time.

A grounding can ruin your whole day - particularly if you're the Skipper. I was sailing the south bay that day (in 1983) on the boat I lived aboard at the time. In the spirit of the "There's 2 kinds of pilots ...." saying we sailors had ours: "There's 2 kinds of sailors in SF Bay - those who have run aground ... and those who will run aground!"

The Big 'E' didn't 'hit a sand bar' so much as it simply didn't turn correctly into the dredged channel into Alameda NAS harbor. To my mind, that error belonged to the harbor pilot, though of course the skipper is ultimately responsible.

If I recall correctly from scuttlebutt at the time, what really did the skipper in was damage incurred in attmpting to get the carrier out of the mud.

$hit happens!

117 posted on 05/10/2006 4:38:47 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: IonImplantGuru
This Officer (retired) is the real deal.

Flew the Tomcat in the flight of the Grumman Cat's at the 1990 Pratt & Whitney Airshow, The Tomcat, Hellcat, Tigercat and Bearcat. I believe before he retired he did another Flight of the Cat's at Oshkosh in 2000 if my memory is correct.

His F-14 in now in the Kalamazoo Air Zoo.

118 posted on 05/10/2006 4:50:49 PM PDT by taildragger (They call themselves Liberal Democrats, I call them Collaborators.)
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To: Guenevere
ha....Tom Cruise could only hope he was man enough to fly one of these......in his dreams!!!

Actually, Cruise does fly a P-51 Mustang (Montana Miss)- so as nutty as he seems to be at times, he does have at least some of 'the right stuff'!

I wouldn't mid taking that sweetie for a ride!

119 posted on 05/10/2006 4:52:36 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: angryirish
Cool Pic. But that's an F-15.

Sheesh! I know what the dang thing is! I was typing up the post and said to self: 'Self, make sure you get the designations right or some freakin' FReeper is gonna get on your case!'

"Lessee: That's a Raptor, an F-22; those are Mustangs; and that's not an F-16 Fighting Falcon, it's an F-15 Eagle."

So what the heck do I actually type? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

120 posted on 05/10/2006 5:00:33 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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