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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: La Enchiladita

How is it possible for our immigration Service to be unbiased in it's application of laws, visa, etc. when everyone at the top is hispanic?


681 posted on 05/09/2006 11:48:30 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!!!)
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To: clawrence3

You're talking level of offense, I'm talking impact on the country and taxpaying Americans. Your ticket won't cost me one dime but Jose and his descendants most surely will have their hands in my unborn grand kids pockets if Bush has his way. See the difference? What do you open border types have against national security and the rule of law?


682 posted on 05/09/2006 11:49:05 AM PDT by blaquebyrd (Allegiance to country before party)
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To: clawrence3

...Currently, being in this country illegally IS a civil misdemeanor offense....

Its a misdemeanor crime -for commission of first offense up to 6 months imprisonment, felony for second offense- up to 2 years imprisonment in addition to any civil fines. This has been pointed out to you before...

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=8&sec=1325


683 posted on 05/09/2006 11:49:07 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: clawrence3; La Enchiladita; kstewskis; Czar; Borax Queen
Bush budget: more for border patrol, none to jail illegal aliens
February 6, 2006

From this:

For the third straight year, President Bush has proposed eliminating hundreds of millions of dollars in federal reimbursements to states to help with the cost of jailing illegal immigrants who commit crimes. California is the top beneficiary of the program.

The reimbursement program is called SCAAP ("State Criminal Alien Assistance Program"). See "Feds paid $2 billion/year to jail criminal aliens" and "Bush refuses to pay for the trouble he causes". California pays at least $750 million to jail illegal aliens, and has only got part of that back from the feds.

* * *

UPDATE: As an extra special gift to the Americans, Bush included something else in his budget: $247 million for his "temporary" worker scheme.


684 posted on 05/09/2006 11:49:51 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3

I didn't see the word "exile" mentioned one time at your link.


686 posted on 05/09/2006 11:50:47 AM PDT by tertiary01 (The Pubs have no one to blame but themselves for their defeat if the borders are not closed!)
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To: pbrown

They're probably all just "busy" right now. : )


687 posted on 05/09/2006 11:51:09 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: rolling_stone

I was talking about first offense - sorry of that was not clear.


688 posted on 05/09/2006 11:51:44 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: tertiary01

It's up at the top - look in the title of document.


690 posted on 05/09/2006 11:52:19 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Marine Inspector
The vast majority of violence along that border is condoned and conducted by the Mexican Government..... who have also bought intelligence from our own government.
691 posted on 05/09/2006 11:52:37 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: clawrence3
I thought you were a Border Patrol agent-in-training?

I'm a former Marine and for the last 8 years, I've been working as an Immigration Inspector/CBP Officer.

The 2 categories under "Exiled" in the government stats linked to above include "forced removals" and "voluntary departures" - does that sound more familiar then?

Nowhere on any Government site or released stats does the term "exile" exist; nor does the word "Forced Removal".

Voluntary Removals and Removals/deportations are the correct terms and do not cause the illegal alien to be exiled.

Exile is the forced or voluntary removal from ones own country. When the illegal is in the US, then they would be in exile from there home country. When they are removed from the US to their home country, they are not exiled.

692 posted on 05/09/2006 11:52:39 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: La Enchiladita
has also been decorated by the governments of El Salvador, Mexico, Colombia, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, Honduras and Nicaragua. Dr. González is a Knight of Malta.

Ain't that nice?

693 posted on 05/09/2006 11:52:53 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3

When you find your dictionary look up 'deportation'. It isn't the same as 'exile'.


694 posted on 05/09/2006 11:53:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: nicmarlo
For the third straight year, President Bush has proposed eliminating hundreds of millions of dollars in federal reimbursements to states to help with the cost of jailing illegal immigrants who commit crimes.

Are there any Federal Prisons in California? Maybe all the illegals should be put in Federal Prisons. Then the Federal Government would have to pay for their incarceration. I wish.

695 posted on 05/09/2006 11:53:31 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: clawrence3

its still a crime for first offense.


696 posted on 05/09/2006 11:53:33 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: tertiary01; Marine Inspector

I'm sorry - you are right - I meant to say "expelled" not "exiled".


697 posted on 05/09/2006 11:53:47 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks for the info - another thread I posted that on got deleted - not sure if I was using "exiled" or "expelled" there either now. I try to type as fast as I can, you know ; )


698 posted on 05/09/2006 11:54:55 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: raybbr; ZULU; nicmarlo

I've been posting this repeatedly, maybe not often enough, over the past few months. It's just too blatant to be any sort of "coincidence."

There's a lot going on in the back room, and it's mostly in Spanish.

Save for future reference.



699 posted on 05/09/2006 11:56:00 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: nicmarlo
They're probably all just "busy" right now. : )

That or it's starting to dawn on them they may be swimming against the current on this issue and are holding their tongues.

700 posted on 05/09/2006 11:56:10 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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