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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: Jeff Head

Just letting you know, I have some friends who are running for Republican Central Committee in Montgomery County, MD who I'll support and vote for in the GOP primary this September, but immediately after that, I'm cutting up my Republican card and going independent. The choice between Republican and Democrat is dumb and dumber, slick and slimey, gross and disgusting, etc.


641 posted on 05/09/2006 11:31:55 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Even with that, since President Bush took office, funding for border security has increased by 66 percent. The Border Patrol has been expanded to more than 12,000 agents, an increase of more than 2,700 agents, or nearly 30 percent. The President's FY07 budget funds another 1,500 new agents . . .

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/immigration/


642 posted on 05/09/2006 11:32:19 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: B4Ranch

No.


643 posted on 05/09/2006 11:32:40 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: tertiary01

Well, that's the official term used by the government keeping track of stats - see link above. Sorry that sounds like DU too much.


644 posted on 05/09/2006 11:33:36 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: ScourgeOf7seas

They need another one:

Do you refuse to answer polls with stupid, biased questions?

Yes
No


645 posted on 05/09/2006 11:33:37 AM PDT by Politicalmom (If fences don't work, why is there a fence around the White House?)
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To: La Enchiladita; clawrence3; kstewskis
Senate Floor Speech
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
March 16, 2005

We are seeing an increase of 137 percent in immigrants who are from countries other than Mexico. These immigrants, which are called OTMs, "other than Mexicans," are coming into our country in the largest numbers we have ever seen. But due to a lack of resources, they are often caught and released, or they are not caught at all.

Recognizing our serious border vulnerability, Congress passed the intelligence reform bill last year and authorized an increase of 10,000 Border Patrol agents over 5 years. It included provisions to add 8,000 detention beds and 800 additional interior investigators. Unfortunately, the [President's] budget before us only allocated enough to cover 210 agents, 143 investigators, and 1,920 beds for detention.....


646 posted on 05/09/2006 11:34:08 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
!!!!!!!!!!!!!

free dixie,sw

647 posted on 05/09/2006 11:34:16 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ping


648 posted on 05/09/2006 11:34:19 AM PDT by KSApplePie_two
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To: VOATNOW1

But some would have our pen taken away. :-)


649 posted on 05/09/2006 11:34:27 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: clawrence3
I doubt very many ICE agents are taking bribes.

Oh, I do too - our guys taking bribes hadn't even crossed my mind. I meant after information left us and went to Mexico. They could be selling it to anyone in the world and we'd have no way of knowing.

650 posted on 05/09/2006 11:34:32 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: clawrence3
Closer to PRESIDENT Hillary Clinton - is that your goal?

By the time Hillary gets inaugurated, she won't have much left to do except raise lots and lots of taxes...

651 posted on 05/09/2006 11:34:48 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Marine Inspector

I thought you were a Border Patrol agent-in-training? The 2 categories under "Exiled" in the government stats linked to above include "forced removals" and "voluntary departures" - does that sound more familiar then?


652 posted on 05/09/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: nicmarlo
Only if they don't want to notice it.

They always arrive as surly as the sun sets in the West.

653 posted on 05/09/2006 11:36:07 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: clawrence3; nunya bidness
There have been almost 5 million exiled...
What is that word you keep using? I don't think it means what you think it means.

From Webster's online:
Main Entry: 1ex·ile
Pronunciation: 'eg-"zIl, 'ek-"sIl
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English exil, from Middle French, from Latin exilium from exul, exsul an exile
1 a : the state or a period of forced absence from one's country or home b : the state or a period of voluntary absence from one's country or home
2 : a person who is in exile

654 posted on 05/09/2006 11:36:14 AM PDT by AnnaZ (Victory at all costs-in spite of all terror-however long and hard the road may be-for survival)
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To: kstewskis; doug from upland; alancarp; AmeriBrit; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; antceecee; ...
PLEASE READ... CRUCIAL INFORMATION

About the Chief of the Office of Citizenship:

Appointed by President George W. Bush in 2003, Alfonso Aguilar is the first Chief of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services’ Office of Citizenship. As Chief of the Office of Citizenship, Mr. Aguilar is charged with leading efforts to promote an understanding of the civic principles on which this nation was founded and increase public awareness of the benefits and responsibilities associated with U.S. citizenship.

Mr. Aguilar has served in the Bush administration since 2001. He has experience within both the U.S. government and the government of Puerto Rico serving as Press Secretary for Latin America and the Caribbean at the U.S. Agency for International Development, as Deputy Director of Public Affairs for the U.S. Department of Energy, as the Executive Director of the Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration, and as Press Secretary for the Puerto Rico Governor’s executive team. Mr. Aguilar is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame and received his Juris Doctor from the University of Puerto Rico.

MOST IMPORTANT:
# Emilio T. González, PH.D, serves as Director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, an Under Secretary position within the Department of Homeland Security. Appointed by President Bush and confirmed by the U.S. Senate in December 2005, Dr. González leads an organization of more than 15,000 federal and contract employees responsible for the accurate, efficient and secure processing of immigration benefits.

Prior to joining the Miami based international law firm of Tew Cardenas, Dr. González was Director for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the National Security Council, Washington, D.C. In this capacity he served as a key National Security and Foreign Policy advisor to President George W. Bush and Dr. Condoleezza Rice. p An international affairs specialist, Dr. González has spent most of his professional career involved in foreign affairs and international security policy issues. He has served in or traveled to almost every country in the Western Hemisphere on numerous occasions, and has represented the United States Government on special diplomatic missions. Dr. González remains active in international politics. He often meets with Heads of State, Foreign Ministers, Trade Ministers, ambassadors and political leaders from throughout the hemisphere. Additionally, Dr. González is a noted commentator on Hispanic and international affairs and has appeared on local, national and international radio and television programs.

Dr. González completed a distinguished career in the U.S. Army that spanned twenty-six years. During this time he served as a military attaché to U.S. Embassies in El Salvador and Mexico, taught at the United States Military Academy at West Point and headed the Office of Special Assistants for the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Southern Command.

A graduate of the University of South Florida in Tampa with a B.A. in International Studies, Dr. González also earned MA degrees in Latin American Studies from Tulane University in New Orleans, Louisiana and in Strategic Studies and National Security Affairs from the US Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island. He was awarded a Ph.D. degree in International Relations from the Graduate School of International Studies, University of Miami, where he also received the Graduate School Award for Academic Achievement. He has been awarded numerous decorations from the United States and has also been decorated by the governments of El Salvador, Mexico, Colombia, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, Honduras and Nicaragua. Dr. González is a Knight of Malta.

Last Modified 03/22/2006 [from USCIS website]

655 posted on 05/09/2006 11:37:38 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: La Enchiladita

I was mistakenly suspended for "advocating violence" when all I did was point out that someone else was advocating violence along the border - do you have a link to any post of mine where I advocated violence? I didn't think so.


656 posted on 05/09/2006 11:37:39 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: nicmarlo

surly---surely. duh.


657 posted on 05/09/2006 11:38:14 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: pbrown

No.


658 posted on 05/09/2006 11:38:24 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
"No more so than I am a criminal for the traffic ticket I received recently - once I complete drivers' education, that will be off my record too."

Pathetic. You belittle the value of American citizenship when you equate invading our country to a traffic violation. I wish all of you bleeding hearts would just exile yourselves to Mexico instead of trying to turn my country into Mexico.

659 posted on 05/09/2006 11:38:31 AM PDT by blaquebyrd (Allegiance to country before party)
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To: Orange1998
"The Border Patrol would not like citizens disclosing their whereabouts or investigations."

No offense to LEO but they seem to be here on this one.

Cheers

660 posted on 05/09/2006 11:39:00 AM PDT by theymakemesick (Sept 11th was perpetrated by GOOD MUSLIMS www.prophetofdoom.com)
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