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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: Fishrrman

You forgot CAFTA. I don't think CAFTA is official yet. This little jewel is really going to open the borders as soon as all the central American nations sign on to it.

What do you want? Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton?

Why repeat bad history?


561 posted on 05/09/2006 11:00:45 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: clawrence3

Sure, you idiot, if all immigration were legal (which is what Mexico wants) then none of it would be illegal.

Retards like yourself are selling out our country.


562 posted on 05/09/2006 11:00:53 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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To: pbrown

You say that like winning 2 national elections is a bad thing.


563 posted on 05/09/2006 11:01:04 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: VOATNOW1; Tammy8

He comes on threads like this to stir up trouble.


564 posted on 05/09/2006 11:01:26 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: P-40
Here's a contact number for the Border Patrol. It was on a homeland security website.

Office of Border Patrol David V. Aguilar (202) 344-2050

What many people don't realize is that America was sold out when NAFTA was signed. The invaders have more rights than we do now.

565 posted on 05/09/2006 11:02:38 AM PDT by janetgreen (THE WHITE HOUSE FIDDLES WHILE AMERICA IS INVADED!)
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To: PeterFinn

I don't want all immigration to be "legal" i.e. terrorists or other criminals, serious health risks, etc.


566 posted on 05/09/2006 11:02:48 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: kstewskis
who else gets this information

You probably, don't really want to know.

567 posted on 05/09/2006 11:02:52 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: clawrence3

There won't be anymore. And they did it to themselves.


568 posted on 05/09/2006 11:03:14 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: clawrence3
Not true - I want an increase in legal immigration and guest worker program - then we will have a real chance of getting closer to ZERO illegal immigration.

Respectively, I ask you this question:

If our current immigration laws are not enforced by our gov't, nor are they respected by the "incoming," why would we have reason to believe that a guest worker program and more laws that support "legal" immigration" will lead to....ZERO illegal immigration?

569 posted on 05/09/2006 11:04:12 AM PDT by kstewskis (Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting.)
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To: pbrown

You don't think after 500+ posts, and duplicate threads, there's been enough trouble stirred up? At least I don't advocate violence or call for Bush's impeachment ; )


570 posted on 05/09/2006 11:04:16 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Do you support a guest worker program that displaces American workers with tax payer funded entitlements to these "guest" workers? Do you support ending entitlements to immigrants as was the case in immigration in the past?


571 posted on 05/09/2006 11:04:43 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: stevio
Is Bush a traitor or what?

Can,t I have a third choice, please?
572 posted on 05/09/2006 11:05:26 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Marine Inspector

Do you think getting this info to the Mexican government is some huge problem?


573 posted on 05/09/2006 11:05:26 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Marine Inspector
No, I don't think I do

(taking cover, locked and loaded)

574 posted on 05/09/2006 11:05:44 AM PDT by kstewskis (Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting.)
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To: pbrown

What came first: the chicken or the egg?


575 posted on 05/09/2006 11:06:06 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
I fully support the President of the United States.

Too bad he supports criminals, I mean illegal immigrants. Whoops, actually I mean "guest workers" because a good "compassionate conservative" would never call a criminal a criminal, that's such a harsh thing to say.
576 posted on 05/09/2006 11:06:55 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: blaquebyrd

Then maybe we should be calling for his impeachment. Bush's actions against the interests and security of our nation are treason. Impeach him.


577 posted on 05/09/2006 11:07:23 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"When we detain and hold them on a felony charge, that's when the requirement to allow consular visits comes into play."

I know--but that's not the issue here. I'm talking about your garden variety illegal invader here. Not the ones who have committed felonies. I hope we can catch them and send them back before they have a chance to commit a felony. So yes, do the VCCR dance once we imprison one if you must but send the others back as soon as possible with a note from their captor showing date caught, released and a bill from the American taxpayers.

578 posted on 05/09/2006 11:07:35 AM PDT by blaquebyrd (Allegiance to country before party)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
and it's a long-standing requirement of international law.

Wrong. It has nothing to do with international law.

Consular notification is an agreement between the United States and other countries. Some countries have mandatory consular notification and others are voluntary. Mexico is mandatory.

579 posted on 05/09/2006 11:07:37 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: clawrence3

No, you just encourage dissolution of the United States of America. Begone.


580 posted on 05/09/2006 11:07:52 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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